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Title: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: wildboy211 on July 31, 2011, 12:42 am
Has anyone have any experience with this guy yet? Selling bags @ 1 BTC.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on July 31, 2011, 03:11 am
Hopefully we find out soon.

Maybe this guy will be filling that long missing void on SR. 8)

Let me know!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: jabooka13 on July 31, 2011, 02:17 pm
Just took the plunge .  I will let you know what happens.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mentalmatt on July 31, 2011, 02:28 pm
It does seem a little suspect... NYC bags... Illy anyone?  Let's hope this is someone new... I'm going to place an order and let you all know how it goes.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on July 31, 2011, 05:17 pm
Definitely let me know what's up. Have you guys been in contact with the seller? Everybody should post their experience.

Anybody know how he is shipping?

Also, I noticed when I first looked he had 35 bags, and he is now down to 4.

People need to post on the forums more!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rollmodule on July 31, 2011, 11:00 pm
He ships USPS first class unless you prefer to pay for upgraded faster service...but he's not currently listed. :(
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 01, 2011, 12:39 am
when i saw this ad...illy came to mind...but i ordered n e ways...if its not legit then the  escrow will serve its purpose once again, i love u SR escrow! ill post again if the shit comes or even if it doesnt come:(
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 01, 2011, 01:34 am
So, that's three confirmed buyers on the forums.

Let's hope this guy comes through! He's out of bags now. Hopefully he re-ups by midweek!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: jabooka13 on August 01, 2011, 08:30 pm
Has anyone received a conformation yet?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 02, 2011, 03:27 am
Hey guys! No worries, I'm the real deal. This is my first time selling please dont confuse me with anyone else. You guys will be happy. I'm trying to figure out this pgp key thing. I think this is my key...

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Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

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=bf9T
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

What do I do with it now? Someone send me a message and their key. Is this strictly for sending messages encrypted? If so, I like it. Try to talk to me with this from now on. If I'm doing something wrong, someone please explain. I told most of you when to expect shipping. I dont want to post it here for protection. Try not to be too detailed with the business you do with me on here, I will appreciate it alot. Message me on SR if you want to chat. Try doing it with PGP so I can figure it out, Laterrz
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mr.wizard on August 02, 2011, 04:35 am
When are you expecting more inventory?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: barbasolshavingcreamcan on August 02, 2011, 08:46 pm
has this guy started shipping yet? curious for reviews.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: jabooka13 on August 03, 2011, 07:22 pm
Received shipping notification yesterday.  FU$%#@#ng awesome~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 03, 2011, 07:32 pm
good communication...mine is on its way!!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 03, 2011, 08:41 pm
He said he shipped out every order that was placed.

Now to see about arrival, quality, and packaging.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: wildboy211 on August 03, 2011, 10:01 pm
Hey guys! No worries, I'm the real deal. This is my first time selling please dont confuse me with anyone else. You guys will be happy. I'm trying to figure out this pgp key thing. I think this is my key...

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Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

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=bf9T
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

What do I do with it now? Someone send me a message and their key. Is this strictly for sending messages encrypted? If so, I like it. Try to talk to me with this from now on. If I'm doing something wrong, someone please explain. I told most of you when to expect shipping. I dont want to post it here for protection. Try not to be too detailed with the business you do with me on here, I will appreciate it alot. Message me on SR if you want to chat. Try doing it with PGP so I can figure it out, Laterrz

Hmm...Illy couldnt figure out how to do PGP either...  :-/
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 04, 2011, 03:25 am
i dont really care about the packaging as long as it gets here and its good! And just because he asked a question about PGP doesn't mean its Illy..could be..for all we know all the H dealers are the same person, thats the mystery behind Silk Road...but as long as you dont go out os escrow or release before receiving, then the risk of loosing your money is minimized and good sellers seem to turn bad sometimes so its hard to trust.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: wildboy211 on August 04, 2011, 04:07 am
i dont really care about the packaging as long as it gets here and its good! And just because he asked a question about PGP doesn't mean its Illy..could be..for all we know all the H dealers are the same person, thats the mystery behind Silk Road...but as long as you dont go out os escrow or release before receiving, then the risk of loosing your money is minimized and good sellers seem to turn bad sometimes so its hard to trust.

I just said illy couldnt figure it out either.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: captainjojo on August 04, 2011, 06:28 am
Hi,

I was online with SR when his product first appeared.  I PM'd him with a couple of questions.

One, what was the bag weight (I figured .1g given the price). He didn't know the weight, but he would check.
Two, did he vacuum pack his product, which he indicated, with some humor, that no, he did not have a vacuum sealer.

Given the fact he didn't even know the weight of each bag I decided the chances were good he was likely just a user, not a dedicated dealer, and was planning on buying as many bags as he could afford and then re-selling them on SR.

I decided to let someone else be the first buyer and wait to see how it turned out.

I didn't get the impression he was someone out to rip people off, just new and inexperienced.

Of course I could be completely wrong and he could be a hit and run guy, hoping to make a few quick bucks, but if he went through escrow, that should not be possible (unless someone didn't get their package and let him have the money anyway).

Just my two cents worth.  I'm waiting hopefully for some good buyers feedback.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 06, 2011, 04:31 pm
Anybody recieve anything yet?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: wildboy211 on August 06, 2011, 11:14 pm
Anybody recieve anything yet?

Yeah, im curious as well.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 07, 2011, 01:36 am
nothing yet:(
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 07, 2011, 04:41 am
When did it ship, if I may ask?

Anybody else care to chime in? I figured if he shipped priority it would be there.

Is priority GUARANTEED 3 days, or just most likely?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: pcgamer02 on August 07, 2011, 06:59 am
Smelled like a scam when I first saw the listing. Interested to hear from anyone who has received stuff though.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 07, 2011, 07:12 pm
I guess priority isn't guaranteed 3 days. And if he didn't bring the priority envelopes INTO the post office, and just dropped them off in a box, they don't ship priority.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 08, 2011, 01:59 am
I guess priority isn't guaranteed 3 days. And if he didn't bring the priority envelopes INTO the post office, and just dropped them off in a box, they don't ship priority.

3days arent guaranteed but i have never done anything but dropped priority flat rate envelopes in blue boxes and not had one yet not show in exactly 3 days in the domestic US.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: joeblow2 on August 08, 2011, 03:08 am
I guess priority isn't guaranteed 3 days. And if he didn't bring the priority envelopes INTO the post office, and just dropped them off in a box, they don't ship priority.

3days arent guaranteed but i have never done anything but dropped priority flat rate envelopes in blue boxes and not had one yet not show in exactly 3 days in the domestic US.

There has been a lot of back and forth about this issue with the Priority Mail envelopes and whether they need to be dropped at the counter or not.  I have to go to the P.O. tomorrow for my regular business so I'll get the real deal on this issue and post to the forum tomorrow night.

I'm like Nomad: when I was selling online I always just put them in the box and they always arrived in 2-3 days; never a problem.  No idea what the current rules/regulations are at the P.O. tho' so I'll find out.  They are *not* guaranteed, that I know, but they do always arrive.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 09, 2011, 03:14 pm
Any word yet?

It really disappoints me how many people here just don't come back and say anything about anything....
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sjg690 on August 10, 2011, 09:06 pm
Ok, he shipped a week ago and nobody has indicated that they received anything.  Priority is coast to coast in 2-3 days per USPS.  Even first class mail isn't that much shorter.  Everything gets shipped basically the same.  So, I can safely assume that if it hasn't shown by now it isn't going to.  So, now we have to figure out what is going on. 

When a vendor vends he gets paid either by selling a legitimate product or by convincing people to finalize before an item is received.  Nobody here has gotten anything, and he never tried getting me to go outside of escrow.  As such, it is difficult to imagine that this guy got paid anything.  Further, he was selling bags at a single BTC, hardly even a profit over street prices.  It makes sense if you're trying to rope somebody in, but if that were the case things would have showed up.

So who would gain from buying a vendor account, which isn't an inconsequential cost, just to put up product that doesn't exist and let the time run out on escrow?  Well, I suppose SR could profit slightly by earning interest, much like a bank does by keeping money that one extra day or holding a check for the full time allowed, but I think that this would be crazy, especially with the puny little amounts we're talking about here.  A more sinister concept would be if SR has some sort of control over the exchange rate of bitcoins, and uses that to his advantage.  Again, doubtful.

So, what's going on here?  I think it is LE fishing for information.  Italianpilot is a cop and now he has a bunch of addresses (most of which are fake, including mine) for people who ordered heroin. 

Any other possibilities?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mseller on August 10, 2011, 09:13 pm
Even this vendor has nothing with me I dont belive is LE, nothing conclusive from several buyer addresses. What LE have from that. It will be easier to go in MMT clinic and ask all users address, opiate addicted person on MMT buy something on street - US is a BIG country, different jurisdiction  - its a non-sense to me. What you think that LE would do with an address? Go to his boss and say; look, this guy is buying heroin, let make a bust..come on, they can not do anything, no search warrant no 24/7 surveilance on address..no-sense
And on which country reside SR server, what LE, DEA, local police, state police, FBI, Coast Guard, Custom Service, ATF ?? Se my point? Where is a crime? Where is a heroin?
He was hoping for out of escrow transaction or something happened to him.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sjg690 on August 11, 2011, 04:51 pm
Well, he did post here after everything had been shipped, so it doesn't look like anything happened to him.  Nobody is saying that he asked anybody to lift escrow.  Of all the possibilities, I don't think any of them make much sense.  I mean, he only had 35 bags to sell, so that's like $350.00 if every single person lifted escrow, which barely pays for his sellers account, and certainly wouldn't pay for the seller's account and the cost of the product in the first place, which means that this cat most certainly lost money.  That doesn't make much sense either.  Is this another one where USPS spotted some sort of pattern and nabbed the whole batch?  I think somebody stated that he indicated that he wasn't vacuum sealing anything.  I don't know.  This is just weird to me.  I don't know.  How else can LE get any information other than posing as a vendor?  Why would somebody do something that would still lose them money even in the best case scenario?

Anybody else have any ideas?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mseller on August 11, 2011, 05:02 pm
I see your point but I think LE will concetrate to bust a vendors. Buyer pose as LE can talk friendly with a vendor, maybe F2F meet, large order etc etc.
I think that no LE do anything without plan and goals. Phishing address just dont mean anything to LE especially with "better things to do" on such big country as USA.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 12, 2011, 07:46 am
Guys sorry for the delay. I messaged delivery confirmations tonight. Fedex wanted a credit card + like 30 bucks. Totally unexpected. I went with priority shipping. Dont kill my feedback too bad. I'm confident enough now I got everything right I re-listed my ad. Those that are still on the fence, just wait for my feedback to come through to see I'm the real deal. I try to answer all messages within 12 hours. I think I have too. Go ahead and burn me at the stake but I'm doing the right thing.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 12, 2011, 08:01 am
Hi,

I was online with SR when his product first appeared.  I PM'd him with a couple of questions.

One, what was the bag weight (I figured .1g given the price). He didn't know the weight, but he would check.
Two, did he vacuum pack his product, which he indicated, with some humor, that no, he did not have a vacuum sealer.

Given the fact he didn't even know the weight of each bag I decided the chances were good he was likely just a user, not a dedicated dealer, and was planning on buying as many bags as he could afford and then re-selling them on SR.

I decided to let someone else be the first buyer and wait to see how it turned out.

I didn't get the impression he was someone out to rip people off, just new and inexperienced.

Of course I could be completely wrong and he could be a hit and run guy, hoping to make a few quick bucks, but if he went through escrow, that should not be possible (unless someone didn't get their package and let him have the money anyway).

Just my two cents worth.  I'm waiting hopefully for some good buyers feedback.

Your right, I was inexperienced, very inexperienced. Definately a user! I was very delayed because I wanted to do everything right the first time.. I went out and bought a vacuum sealer (150.00), then had to learn abotu encryption(which I picked up pretty quick), and then I dealt with paranoia at FedEx and at USPS. Then I ran out of dough because I expected to receive funds right away but then realized I had to sell my personal stash which I couldnt because I was low on dough and needed to get a paycheck. I spike $200.00+ of dirt everyday. The day I told everyone I shipped I really wanted to but kept going over everything making sure I was as anonymous as possible. So much that it got too late and never shipped. Finally got the balls and shipped out almost everyones shit tonight and sent the tracking numbers. Everyone that was promised it was shipped, it was shipped. Please hold off on disputing for 2 days max. I only got tracking numbers in case I have to fight for it back.

Anyway, I am confident now that I have my methods down pat and I feel completely safe and anonymous. I'm only explaining everything so that everyone understands. I promise I'm not this Illy character and I wouldn't ever fuck anyone. I bullshitted a bit because I was trying to be careful and it took me a little bit to grow some bigger balls. I'm like a fucking factory not with my new vacuum sealer toy! Everyone comment your thoughts. Thanks for understanding. By the way, If your one of the very, very few that I haven't shipped yet and want a refund, just ask. But ask quickly because If you got a message from me then you were shipped, if not your being shipped tomorrow. I felt uncomfortable shipping everything at once for some reason I felt safer taking care of the impatient first and breaking it up a bit. I also took care of my large orders. OK, I feel this is quite a bit info, I hope all of you guys understand.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 12, 2011, 08:04 am
Smelled like a scam when I first saw the listing. Interested to hear from anyone who has received stuff though.

Definately not a scam.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: captainjojo on August 12, 2011, 11:33 am
It does sound pretty much like what I guessed at in my earlier post.  He's a user himself, inexperienced at selling even f2f, let alone trying to selling on place like SR, where anonymity is the word of the day.

It sounds like he has simply been trying to cover the bases, learning as he goes.

Let's keep in mind that everyone on SR interested in his type of product has been waiting for ages for someone to step up.

This was the first round of buying from a brand new seller, who had no history on SR. I think it is safe to say that everybody that placed an order was aware of the possibility of this being a scammer.  They were also the ones brave enough to give this guy a chance in the first place, so guys like me could wait and see what kind of feedback the seller received before placing our own orders.

So lets give the guy a little room to fulfill his end of the bargain.  It sounds like he is trying to be up front with everybody now, letting them know he's new at this and working to do a good job.

Hopefully we will start hearing some feedback soon (feedback for the product - I don't consider complaining because the package was a few days late to be proper feedback, unless the seller lied about how he was going to send it - said priority but sent it regular mail).

If we get some good feedback, the rest of us can start giving the guy a try, with the end result hopefully of having a new, stable, seller of a product many people want.

I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 12, 2011, 01:40 pm
sounds promising ...i got my tracking# and it will be here  tomorrow! i dont want to get too excited...i just hope its not short, that would be disappointing but ive been shooting Keasy's tar and it would be nice to finally get some powder.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 12, 2011, 02:56 pm
Well maybe next week after some actual feedback you can get unstickied and not be a suspicious vendor.
Good Luck with that!

:D

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 12, 2011, 05:38 pm
What's this guy's URL vendor page?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 12, 2011, 06:58 pm
This guy literally just PM'd everyone saying that he "JUST" shipped out orders last night, and that he shipped them priority.

He originally told everyone first class because he didn't realize he wouldn't get BTC instantly and that he would be dopesick while waiting for his money.

THus, he waited until payday and has now shipped everyones product priority.

Personally, if mine arrives, I have the utmost respect for him. He was new, he learned how the system worked, and now he is going to provide quality dope.

We'll see.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: captainjojo on August 12, 2011, 07:30 pm
Yup.  He is getting his one chance.  If he doesn't follow through he will find it next to impossible to find buyers willing to give him a second one.

If he follows through, even with being late shipping the goods, he will probably get a few less than stellar reviews, but buyers with product in their hands are more likely to give him a second chance, which will give him a second chance to improve his ratings.

So here's hoping that this guy comes through, because I would really like to have a new stable seller in this area.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 12, 2011, 08:19 pm
@btcfreedom

I like your new approach.  Start with skepticism and move slowly towards trust.  Always works better than the reverse. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 12, 2011, 10:33 pm
@btcfreedom

I like your new approach.  Start with skepticism and move slowly towards trust.  Always works better than the reverse.

+1

thanks univac. i am trying to tone it down and be civil as nomad was asking. i don't want to come off as a bell end. lol

i just want to protect all of us. this all is too valuable, what we have here... 8)

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Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 12, 2011, 10:35 pm
Well maybe next week after some actual feedback you can get unstickied and not be a suspicious vendor.
Good Luck with that!

:D

nomad bloodbath

Actually, I though it was stickied to be convenient for me! I feel awesome cuz I actually shipped. Somewhere I read that I'm a revolutionary for selling on here. That paranoia turned into excitement cuz I'm the only one in NYC selling this shit the way of the future! LOL
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 12, 2011, 10:42 pm
Hey guys! No worries, I'm the real deal. This is my first time selling please dont confuse me with anyone else. You guys will be happy.

based on your feedback, i wouldn't buy a blank piece of paper from you  ::) you also use the word "ops" in your item for sale. sounds a little LE to me.

1 of 5   Product never arrived - stay away!   item   22 hours

Aint nobody happy there.

Unless you care to rectify that feedback, and someone on here gets from you successfully, I'll shut my mouth and delete this post.

Just looking out for the community, don't take it personal :) we smell LE from so far away, it's the day before they thought of the idea to come in here.

you'd need time travel basically to be as on point and paranoid as us.

b

I expect you to come through on your word. I am really trying to make it right. And by the way, I'm no fuking pig!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 12, 2011, 10:43 pm
Received shipping notification yesterday.  FU$%#@#ng awesome~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please calm your raging erection! never, never, rely on shipping notification of any kind.

anything can happen.

keep us posted :)

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Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 13, 2011, 12:42 am
@italianpilot

Hopefully you're not Italian or in NYC. As a pilot you probably don't remember what city you're in.  Not that you're necessarily a pilot.  These are all things we really don't need to know.  Also, please don't tell us your birthday or your favorite tattoo.  Stay paranoid on here, the walls have ears!   Probably time to wait patiently (and silently) for the feedback to roll in, early next week.  Good luck, stay safe, stay paranoid!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: oinkfat on August 13, 2011, 06:04 am
I like  you btcfreedom, remind me of me.

Got that passionate libertarianism in your blood, even if you aren't libertarian.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 13, 2011, 12:43 pm
Hey guys! No worries, I'm the real deal. This is my first time selling please dont confuse me with anyone else. You guys will be happy.

based on your feedback, i wouldn't buy a blank piece of paper from you  ::) you also use the word "ops" in your item for sale. sounds a little LE to me.

1 of 5   Product never arrived - stay away!   item   22 hours

Aint nobody happy there.

Unless you care to rectify that feedback, and someone on here gets from you successfully, I'll shut my mouth and delete this post.

Just looking out for the community, don't take it personal :) we smell LE from so far away, it's the day before they thought of the idea to come in here.

you'd need time travel basically to be as on point and paranoid as us.

b

I expect you to come through on your word. I am really trying to make it right. And by the way, I'm no fuking pig!

you expect me to come through on my word? lmao!

my word is nothing to you my friend. lets hope that feedback gets better and you can prove yourself on these grounds.


b

I'm not your friend.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 13, 2011, 04:26 pm
Has anybody received? Edit: Got a response.

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 13, 2011, 08:03 pm
Well, he did post here after everything had been shipped, so it doesn't look like anything happened to him.  Nobody is saying that he asked anybody to lift escrow.  Of all the possibilities, I don't think any of them make much sense.  I mean, he only had 35 bags to sell, so that's like $350.00 if every single person lifted escrow, which barely pays for his sellers account, and certainly wouldn't pay for the seller's account and the cost of the product in the first place, which means that this cat most certainly lost money.  That doesn't make much sense either.  Is this another one where USPS spotted some sort of pattern and nabbed the whole batch?  I think somebody stated that he indicated that he wasn't vacuum sealing anything.  I don't know.  This is just weird to me.  I don't know.  How else can LE get any information other than posing as a vendor?  Why would somebody do something that would still lose them money even in the best case scenario?

Anybody else have any ideas?

I have a question... pay for a seller account? I am struggling to figure out why 7 BTC were transferred out of my account. You mean to tell me I wont even be receiving the BTC until I cover a fee? I read the seller's guide and it didn't tell  me anything about a fee for a seller's account. Is it possible since I have been a member on SR for a while the seller's fee does not apply to me?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 13, 2011, 08:45 pm
I figured that since I was able to post an ad without having to win an auction or pay any other way for a sellers account, that because I've been a ember for a while that it didn't apply to me. The 7 BTC that were transferred ot of my account were the same 7 BTC that were from the guy who left me negative feedback.

The day I shipped, I realized that someone had settled a sale and 7 BTC were out of escrow and into my account. I messaged the dude telling him that I didn't know why he did what he did but that he would be receiving his order is a few days. Then I realized he left me negative feedback. Then I sent another message to him giving him credit for spending 7 BTC just to leave me bad feedback. I told him I had hoped he could change the feedback once he received the shipment. He never responded. Then yesterday I realize that the 7 BTC were transferred out of my account as if I had done it. I have the address and everything. I assumed it was how the dispute process worked so I messaged SR and gave them the tracking number in an attempt to get the money back. SR messaged me and told me they were unclear what was going on. They said "Have I not made that transfer out of my account?"

At that point I kind of panicked and change my password, I messaged SR and told them I didn't and to please look  into the situation as I am now nervous since it appears my account has been hacked. I am assuming the buyer ha something to do with it since he has not returned my messages. I messages him with my BTC address here on SR hoping he will refund me the 7 BTC once he receives his shipment. If he doesn't I am at a loss. I am more concerned with how 7 BTC were transferred out of my account. I always log in with the correct url.

Any input as to what has happened is greatly welcomed. I am waiting for SR to respond.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: captainjojo on August 13, 2011, 10:07 pm
@Italianpilot

Are you saying that you did not go through the sellers account auction to buy your sellers account?

I checked your profile and it says you have been a member for 2 months.

I am not sure when they started using the auction method to get people to pay to open a seller account but the only way I can think of right now that would have allowed you to get a sellers account without paying is that you setup the account before they started selling them.  I haven't been on SR that long, so I don't know.

It would be good if someone from SR could clear this up.

Thanks
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mr.wizard on August 13, 2011, 11:05 pm
Yup.  He is getting his one chance.  If he doesn't follow through he will find it next to impossible to find buyers willing to give him a second one.

If he follows through, even with being late shipping the goods, he will probably get a few less than stellar reviews, but buyers with product in their hands are more likely to give him a second chance, which will give him a second chance to improve his ratings.

So here's hoping that this guy comes through, because I would really like to have a new stable seller in this area.

I second his one chance.  Just placed an order to see if he comes through.  I'll keep everyone posted.  I know there are a lot of fingers crossed
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 13, 2011, 11:11 pm
Yup.  He is getting his one chance.  If he doesn't follow through he will find it next to impossible to find buyers willing to give him a second one.

If he follows through, even with being late shipping the goods, he will probably get a few less than stellar reviews, but buyers with product in their hands are more likely to give him a second chance, which will give him a second chance to improve his ratings.

So here's hoping that this guy comes through, because I would really like to have a new stable seller in this area.

I second his one chance.  Just placed an order to see if he comes through.  I'll keep everyone posted.  I know there are a lot of fingers crossed

Thanks Mr. Wizard. What I have noticed is that although I have been about a week late due to all this shit I went through, I will still be making it before the time run out on the Escrow. I have also noticed the ones who haven't received yet are protecting themselves by placing disputes which is ok. Like I said, I'm glad I got most of them off.

I am still nervous about the BTC being transferred out of my account. Please SR find out what happened.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: notwoody on August 14, 2011, 12:17 am
I can't believe anyone would trust this clown with any info.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: certainlynotme on August 14, 2011, 03:54 pm
disclaimer: I have no skin in this game and have reached no conclusions on the nature of italianpilot

however, btcfreedom keeps throwing around the notion that the vendor is LE, and I am curious what the theory is there. others in this thread have offered convincing arguments against the idea that LE cares to spend time and effort identifying individuals purchasing very, very small amounts of H. I have a hard time believing that if LE wanted to bust people buying stamp bags, they would go this particular route. the only other plausible notion i can come up with is intent to screw with the market and dissuade potential buyers from legitimate vendors, although that clearly is not going to work (which is not to say that LE isn't dumb enough to try it).

it seems to me that if you are going to make an accusation that in this context is kinda serious, you should at least propose some theory justifying that accusation. i haven't seen or heard any arguments on this thread that would back up the idea that this vendor is really LE ; it probably is what it looks like, an SR-inexperienced H user trying to fund their habit and making a hash of it (no pun intended). that in itself is enough to turn many off, and there is ample justification for warning potential buyers off a seller who hasn't come through yet. there isn't any justification that i have seen for accusing the seller of being LE.

if anyone has a theory for what LE gains out of this seller's behavior, I think many folks on here would like to hear it so they can weigh the argument and make their own decision. i appreciate that btcfreedom feels that they are trying to protect "the community," but accurate information and serious discussion of the dangers is far more helpful to the community than accusations that someone is LE without any evidence or good arguments to that effect.

just trying to strike a blow for informed discussion...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 14, 2011, 07:09 pm
I seriously fucking doubt this guy is LE. I'm no fed, and I understand the need to be paranoid w/ all the attention around SR, but come on people, we can't just call everybody a DEA member. The term starts to lose meaning and then when we have a serious warning, people aren't going to take it seriously.

As of right now, we have no reason to suspect him being LE anymore than any other new vendor.

And y'all are burning him at the stake a little bit too early. I get the vibe he's just new at this game, nothing that can't be improved. He's also kinda rude, but ehh, what junkie/dope dealer isn't? Besides, if he sells quality dope I could give a shit less about his manners lol.

I'm going to place an order with him soon. And if it is LE, well congratulations, you wasted hours of your time to apprehend somebody buying a miniscule amount of heroin. Real threat to our national security, thanks.

Who knows, this could very well be the guy whose going to fill the long missing opioid category on SR. Let's not discourage him.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 14, 2011, 09:16 pm
I seriously fucking doubt this guy is LE. I'm no fed, and I understand the need to be paranoid w/ all the attention around SR, but come on people, we can't just call everybody a DEA member. The term starts to lose meaning and then when we have a serious warning, people aren't going to take it seriously.

As of right now, we have no reason to suspect him being LE anymore than any other new vendor.

And y'all are burning him at the stake a little bit too early. I get the vibe he's just new at this game, nothing that can't be improved. He's also kinda rude, but ehh, what junkie/dope dealer isn't? Besides, if he sells quality dope I could give a shit less about his manners lol.

I'm going to place an order with him soon. And if it is LE, well congratulations, you wasted hours of your time to apprehend somebody buying a miniscule amount of heroin. Real threat to our national security, thanks.

Who knows, this could very well be the guy whose going to fill the long missing opioid category on SR. Let's not discourage him.

Thanks for the support. I'm excited tomorrow a lot of folks are receiving!  I did well again, even before good feedback came through. Thank you to all the believers.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 14, 2011, 09:24 pm
Oh,, regarding the situation with the 7 BTC being transferred out of my account..... SR agreed that it was very suspicious and told me that it may be a coincidence and that it may have been someone else that hacked my account. They said they will be monitoring the buyer's account and would try to recover the 7 BTC for me. They told me that now that I have a very secure password, I should be safe. I guess it was stupid to have a 4 digit number for a password after all.

If it was the buyer who stole the BTC out of my account, if he refunds me after receiving his package tomorrow, it is admitting guilt so I'm not sure if that will happen.

Oh and by the way, I think anyone would become rude if they were accused of being a fed. Especially somebody doing what I'm doing.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 14, 2011, 10:22 pm
@certainlynotme
Quote
i appreciate that btcfreedom feels that they are trying to protect "the community," but accurate information and serious discussion of the dangers is far more helpful to the community than accusations that someone is LE without any evidence or good arguments to that effect.

Excellent point.  As individuals the best we can do is make sure our own affairs are in order, and that we are as informed as possible in the risks we take.  No one person can really do more than that thinking they are going to protect the "community".  We all have access to the limited information available about ip, and we can all do our own analysis of what it might mean.  Personally, I don't see enough to make a judgment at this point in any direction.  So before I say ip is legit, I will wait for more feedback to come in.  Neither would I say he is not legit, or worse, until more information becomes available. 

@manlyman

Quote
The term starts to lose meaning and then when we have a serious warning, people aren't going to take it seriously.

That is the danger of jumping to a conclusion prematurely, as btcfreedom seems to be doing.  It's the boy who cried wolf effect.  Luckily, we have risk takers like you who take the plunge first and report back to those of us who are risk adverse.  God bless you for doing that.  looking forward to seeing the feedback on this one before passing judgment on ip. 

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: DEAcanSUCKmyDICK on August 15, 2011, 12:13 am
Hopefully he's not LE, has anyone gotten their shit yet?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: DEAcanSUCKmyDICK on August 15, 2011, 12:17 am
Hopefully he is not LE...did anyone get their shit? RX4200 said his tracking said Saturday....did it come?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 15, 2011, 12:24 am
It's not really a huge risk IMO. He's going through escrow, worst case scenario you get your bitcoin back.

WTF are people so paranoid about? He stands to gain more by selling smack then by scamming people. Legit selling on SR could allow somebody to pay their pills and support a habit, if they wanted. Besides, he ain't asking for a front, so it's all good with me. Escrow is where it's at.

If you can keep your individual bag listing up for another 24 hours, Italianpilot, it'd be badass. I need to place an order but gotta get a P.O. Box tomorrow first. I'll be first to post on here and leave you some good feedback if your shit's legit.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 15, 2011, 01:37 pm
@btcfreedom

Do you have some specific information on this situation that you're not sharing with us? 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 15, 2011, 01:45 pm
@btcfreedom

Do you have some specific information on this situation that your not sharing with us?

uni, i have experience. experience i'm not sure I wanted. it's enough to share and make people aware should there be a muck up like there was before, many times.

i'm willing to give the man a chance, but until then i'm coming down hard especially for the shitty feedback he got first time around.

no crying wolf - as there is cast die already. you never get a second chance to make a first impression, remember that head and shoulders commercial? lol ;)


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Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: barbasolshavingcreamcan on August 15, 2011, 05:24 pm
anyone have feedback for this gentleman yet?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Antacid on August 15, 2011, 08:16 pm
take a look into SR admission
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 15, 2011, 08:20 pm
Yeah, looks like someone received an order.  I'm waiting for a few more before ordering.  I also hope he can start pinning down shipment dates.  I like to time these kinds of things.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 15, 2011, 10:29 pm
IP,

we're gonna see what you're about today.

the reason i've busted your balls is because of the way of the horse on here....lot of ripping off, AWOL, and addicts failing to come through.

that and the possibility of LE...

Now -

if this order comes through, as we notice GodHand is close to you via 4r34 c0d3 - should be soon.

Special order for Godhand 212   ฿4.10   0   0   add to cart

this is a custom listing and i will give you the benefit of the doubt - remove all negative listings and then?

i'll buy a fucking bag or tree.

 ;D

good luck, and please don't be LE ffs. never to be taken personal.

b

Before you jump to conclusions, he's halfway across the country. Looks like I got 1 positive so far. I knew the product was good! I'm expecting several more.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 15, 2011, 10:58 pm
Just ordered a half g off this dude.

I would've placed a smaller order, but the feds just popped a major dope ring and there's a drought here. I'm fucking rattling like all hell, hope this guy ships fast.

I got a scale and I know good dope. If this guy's legit, you guys are for sure going to hear me singing his praises.


Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on August 15, 2011, 11:28 pm
Quote
Just ordered a half g off this dude.

I would've placed a smaller order, but the feds just popped a major dope ring and there's a drought here. I'm fucking rattling like all hell, hope this guy ships fast.

I got a scale and I know good dope. If this guy's legit, you guys are for sure going to hear me singing his praises.

How did you place an order? I don't see a special listing. Did you just send money to ItalianPilot with no escrow?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: captainjojo on August 15, 2011, 11:55 pm
Either he knows how much each bag weighs (I asked, never did get an answer) and simply ordered the number of bags equal to .5g.

Or, just PM ItalionPilot and ask for a special order if that's what you want, that would be the normal way to do it.  He would then put up a custom order for you if he is willing.

I'm just waiting for a few more feedbacks.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: bigpharma on August 16, 2011, 12:18 am
about to buy just waiting for a few more feedbacks... is it worth it ?   only stuff i done is back when i was in teh middle east...so lemme see some feedbacks about weight and quality...i will be buying if i see more good feedbacks
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 16, 2011, 12:34 am
I just ordered 5 of the bags. I asked him, he wouldn't give a cut for 1/2 gram. We shall see, I'll keep you guys posted.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 16, 2011, 02:58 am
about to buy just waiting for a few more feedbacks... is it worth it ?   only stuff i done is back when i was in teh middle east...so lemme see some feedbacks about weight and quality...i will be buying if i see more good feedbacks

I'm doing the same, but the stuff you had in the middle east probably set the bar very high - as a rule, dope gets stepped on quite a bit before landing on the streets (and subsequently, SR.)  Maybe it's good, but my guess is that it's nowhere near the quality of what you had over there.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 16, 2011, 03:55 am
While the man got overwhelmed and wasn't aware how the system worked exactly, boy did he come through. He came clean through PM that he didn't ship until last thirsday and he shipped priority and whatnot. -1 for being late, +1 for honesty and coming through.

+5 for product quality. I did 1 bag and fell out and woke up on my couch twenty minutes later. A+ product.

Product had great legs. I was high all day up, and my nods were all over the place.

Basically, I expected less quality than I got, and I'm thankful to be alive. Amazing dope.

Let's hope he stays around because I will be a happy camper.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 16, 2011, 04:30 am
I like  you btcfreedom, remind me of me.

Got that passionate libertarianism in your blood, even if you aren't libertarian.

+1

that's tremendous. thank you.

you remind me...of me


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Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: captainjojo on August 16, 2011, 05:08 am
@Ryuguy

Quick question, did he vac seal and was the packaging good?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 16, 2011, 02:29 pm
Vacuum sealed, yes.

Packaging was typical. Nothing special. Security Priority Cardboard.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Ryuguy on August 16, 2011, 03:48 pm
Quality was fucking great though.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 16, 2011, 04:08 pm
Facepalm'd entire thread.

:(

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 16, 2011, 05:15 pm
Facepalm'd entire thread.

:(

nomad bloodbath

+1 lmao
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sjg690 on August 16, 2011, 08:39 pm
Why is it that every freaking H vendor sends to everybody but me.  The same thing happened with Illy.  Other people were getting their orders and here I was sitting there holding my nuts.  Why didn't you ship my shit on thursday with the rest of  the crap IP?  Why did my shit wait until Monday?

20 bucks mine never shows.  There isn't enough feedback here that couldn't have been manufactured by IP himself.  Probably he's just biding for time.

Junkies get desperate....rip people off.  I'll post though if I receive.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Godhand212 on August 17, 2011, 12:15 am
I just filled my private order with IP. He is a stand up guy and I'm really pleased with the way he handled things. I have been ripped off a few times on SR for dope but I have a feeling this guy is the real deal. He is professional and responds quicker then anyone I have dealt with before.

Now I know I'm getting ahead of myself but I hope this shit comes through. Will be keeping SR informed!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: keldog09 on August 17, 2011, 12:23 am
Hmmm.... It was that good of dope, huh?

I kinda wanna get a bag from this guy... More good reviews plz?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 17, 2011, 01:54 am
Hmmm.... It was that good of dope, huh?

I kinda wanna get a bag from this guy... More good reviews plz?

i have confidence he's got it together to make it work. we need this week and by saturday we should have a clear

idea of whether IP is on point or not.


EDIT: check out the two 5/5's he just got. either he's got some good dope, or he's got some good dope.

dig in kids

IP is approved for takeoff in my book, may have to buy a bag now...

LOL
Will the two feedbacker please come and post in this thread?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 17, 2011, 02:06 am
@btcfreedom

So you've changed your mind about your original allegations?  My dilemma is waiting for more information or jumping in when the gettings good...  Because some good things never seem to last.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 17, 2011, 02:14 am
My order came in today and the quality was good! He kept the lines of communication open and delivered at the end...and he wasn't LE! Kinda scary for a minute there, as I was tracking the package (WITHOUT TOR ON) it said it was out for delivery yesterday but when i got home it wasn't there. Then I checked again last night and it said that it was delivered at 10:36pm to somewhere in a different zip code! I was freaking out but after I got it, I figured that the mailman or woman probably scanned it delivered to avoid some kind of employer discipline....but the product was awesome and I hope this will be a consistent long term relationship! Placed another order and gave a 5/5!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 17, 2011, 02:35 am
Nice.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 17, 2011, 11:17 am
My order came in today and the quality was good! He kept the lines of communication open and delivered at the end...and he wasn't LE! Kinda scary for a minute there, as I was tracking the package (WITHOUT TOR ON) it said it was out for delivery yesterday but when i got home it wasn't there. Then I checked again last night and it said that it was delivered at 10:36pm to somewhere in a different zip code! I was freaking out but after I got it, I figured that the mailman or woman probably scanned it delivered to avoid some kind of employer discipline....but the product was awesome and I hope this will be a consistent long term relationship! Placed another order and gave a 5/5!

holdon. did you mean 10:36AM? just checking :)

nobody delivers anything after 7pm other than private carriers

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Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 17, 2011, 02:08 pm
Placed an order yesterday, PM'd him and haven't heard back yet.  Still kinda nervous about those feedbacks.  They look good, but could still be manufactured by LE.  Wouldn't be difficult to create some buyer accounts, use existing LE forum accounts to drum up business, and make some "transactions."  Not explicitly calling anyone a NARC here, but in my book, you're all Feds until proven otherwise, and even then I'd wonder.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Antacid on August 17, 2011, 02:23 pm
Nur weil Du paranoid bist ,
heisst das noch lange nicht ,
das keiner hinter Dir her ist !!

English :

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you

by KC
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 17, 2011, 02:44 pm
Nur weil Du paranoid bist ,
heisst das noch lange nicht ,
das keiner hinter Dir her ist !!

English :

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you

by KC

+1 never get comfortable
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: barbasolshavingcreamcan on August 17, 2011, 11:14 pm
looks like his original negative review was edited today with a 5/5.

after failing to receive anything from illy and aromatics, i'm ready for SR to deliver me some real opiate action.

I was one of IP's early orders, and was told it would ship Saturday. really hoping to receive tomorrow.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 18, 2011, 12:58 am
Thank you all for such positive reviews. I'm dealing with some more delays which will be cleaned up real soon. I am waiting for some BTC conversions to go through. Can anyone help with the best & safe possible methods for converting BTC to cash? I know there are those who are waiting to order until I get everything streamlined and I understand that. I appreciate the (risk-takers) giving me a chance. By the way I will never ask anyone to settle early or out of escrow. There are those who have asked to mail me cash. I will not bend to any other method than escrow. Because of that, please finalize the sale quickly once receiving your order.

BTC Freedom, it seems that you have lent me a bit of support from an earlier post, thanks. I know I haven't gotten it down to where I am shipping right away but I am getting closer to that. Once I have a safe and quick way to convert BTC to cash, I will have the confidence I need to become reliable for the long term. I hope all could see now that I am for real, it's all improvement from here.

Thanks for the patience
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 18, 2011, 01:10 am
btcfreedom- it was delivered at 10:36pm...thats why i was freaking out for a minute. But the next day, it was there waiting for me and no LE in sight! i was relieved:) still cant figure out where it went or who it was delivered to at 10:36pm but ive heard of postal workers scanning packages as delivered and delivering the next day....but everything is good..i even changed my address from now on just to be safe....
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 18, 2011, 02:57 am
Glad to see you posting here and that you're working out your logistical issues.  Bet that 100% positive feedback feels good, huh?

I see you reposted the single bags.  Hope the supply is replenished so shipping can resume.  Are you starting to get things worked out so you can start regularly planning your shipment dates?  It'd be nice to know we can count on timely shipments.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mr.wizard on August 18, 2011, 04:15 am
Glad to see you posting here and that you're working out your logistical issues.  Bet that 100% positive feedback feels good, huh?

I see you reposted the single bags.  Hope the supply is replenished so shipping can resume.  Are you starting to get things worked out so you can start regularly planning your shipment dates?  It'd be nice to know we can count on timely shipments.

I second props for communicating on here.  Also is sending out PMs on SR acknowledging a delay.  So far, things are on the up
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 18, 2011, 10:24 am
Thank you all for such positive reviews. I'm dealing with some more delays which will be cleaned up real soon. I am waiting for some BTC conversions to go through. Can anyone help with the best & safe possible methods for converting BTC to cash? I know there are those who are waiting to order until I get everything streamlined and I understand that. I appreciate the (risk-takers) giving me a chance. By the way I will never ask anyone to settle early or out of escrow. There are those who have asked to mail me cash. I will not bend to any other method than escrow. Because of that, please finalize the sale quickly once receiving your order.

BTC Freedom, it seems that you have lent me a bit of support from an earlier post, thanks. I know I haven't gotten it down to where I am shipping right away but I am getting closer to that. Once I have a safe and quick way to convert BTC to cash, I will have the confidence I need to become reliable for the long term. I hope all could see now that I am for real, it's all improvement from here.

Thanks for the patience

IP, i have revoked any negative wording or suspect of LE. you are a good person and I apologize for offending you.

From what I know fastest way to convert BTC to cash is using Dwolla dot com.

I am paranoid and come down hard on the horse slangers - because many ripoffs occur and AWOLS. you however do not fit that

description. you've got your shit together and you're also updating us which is fantastic. I'm going to have to order some now lol.

100% feedback with that one changed entry - it does feel good don't it :) that buyer who edited it did the right thing. we saw all those

positive ones and knew his was off...

b
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 18, 2011, 10:43 am
Bitcoin>Liberty Reserve>WU
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 18, 2011, 12:37 pm
Bitcoin>Liberty Reserve>WU

nomad, isnt there some data about LR requesting IPs from it's customers?

that bugs me the fuck out. so does WU.


but that is my own two btc :)

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 18, 2011, 01:08 pm
Bitcoin>Liberty Reserve>WU

nomad, isnt there some data about LR requesting IPs from it's customers?

that bugs me the fuck out. so does WU.


but that is my own two btc :)



That is true for high amounts of cash but itf you do it little bit at a time like under 100$ a times there will be no questions. Never put more money into LR at a time then you thing they won't start asking questions.
They will think large amounts of money is laundring in some way.

:D

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 18, 2011, 05:10 pm
Bitcoin>Liberty Reserve>WU

nomad, isnt there some data about LR requesting IPs from it's customers?

that bugs me the fuck out. so does WU.


but that is my own two btc :)



That is true for high amounts of cash but itf you do it little bit at a time like under 100$ a times there will be no questions. Never put more money into LR at a time then you thing they won't start asking questions.
They will think large amounts of money is laundring in some way.

:D

nomad bloodbath

+1.

i always keep my btc transactions 100$ or near on all trading platforms.

and change that SR payment address every time.

B
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: barbasolshavingcreamcan on August 18, 2011, 08:55 pm
still hasn't arrived. I used to do shipping for a living, so I know how long it should have taken via priority mail. with my luck I am assuming it has gotten lost in the system.  :-\
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 18, 2011, 09:15 pm
^ That sucks. All this talk about how awesome IP's dope is, now I'm itching badly for my order! Oh well, dude's been cool and kept up some good communication, I'm just hoping shit gets sorted out and he ships my stuff soon.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sjg690 on August 18, 2011, 10:28 pm
To be honest, I'm afraid that SR is going to start calling bullshit on me not receiving my stuff.  I'm just wondering what I've been doing wrong.  My success rate with this place is less than 50%.  I got one bag of H from a guy a long time back that barely vends, two orders of Adderall showed up, some Kratom (just to get rid of BTC basically) and everything else has fallen through, which includes three orders of H (that I can remember) some coke, and all the good stuff.  Oh, chronicpain came through twice with some Opana.  Can't forget him. 

I'm one of the first to order from IP.  I ordered from him before he got his vacuum sealer, back when he was bullshitting about actually sending the stuff.  So, nothing showed up.  He finally came clean about not shipping and came to the boards and said that almost everything went out a week ago (last thursday).  I'm still confused as to why my order wasn't in that batch, but he sent me a PM over the weekend asking if I still wanted him to ship.  I told him yes, and asked him to throw in a third bag as a sign of good faith and I'd pay him for it if/when it showed up.  He said he would advise once shipped.  That was 5 days ago.  In the meantime I've extended the escrow because he swears that it will show and others are getting their orders.  Even long standing gents are taking back bad things that were said.  Well, not me.

I'm the easiest customer.  I'm the customer you want to deal with.  I'm the customer you love so much you want to give me the shit for free (well, maybe not that much).  You know what I do?  I add an item to my cart, I enter the address to which I want it shipped, I click submit.  I NEVER send a PM unless there is an issue (like once I wasn't planning on getting to my computer for a while and didn't want to leave CP hanging with the money in escrow, so I sent him a PM letting him know it was a possibility).  I know IP has gotten a million PM's, but not a single one from me until today (other than to simply answer his question as to shipping or refunding).  Do I need to start being a pain in the ass?  Do I need to send a million PM's, like dude needs me to tell him that I really really want my heroin?  Is there always a few people that end up getting fucked over and I just make it really easy for one of them to be me because I just hang tight and not say anything? 

I don't know how much dope I've actually paid for to get the one frickin bag (of lame weak shit, I might add) that actually did show up.  Could somebody sell me some?  Could somebody put up a listing and I'll click "purchase" and then money will go into escrow and you'll send some heroin to an address that I provide and I'll release the escrow.  Could we do that?  Somebody!!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 18, 2011, 11:02 pm
To be honest, I'm afraid that SR is going to start calling bullshit on me not receiving my stuff.  I'm just wondering what I've been doing wrong.  My success rate with this place is less than 50%.  I got one bag of H from a guy a long time back that barely vends, two orders of Adderall showed up, some Kratom (just to get rid of BTC basically) and everything else has fallen through, which includes three orders of H (that I can remember) some coke, and all the good stuff.  Oh, chronicpain came through twice with some Opana.  Can't forget him. 

I'm one of the first to order from IP.  I ordered from him before he got his vacuum sealer, back when he was bullshitting about actually sending the stuff.  So, nothing showed up.  He finally came clean about not shipping and came to the boards and said that almost everything went out a week ago (last thursday).  I'm still confused as to why my order wasn't in that batch, but he sent me a PM over the weekend asking if I still wanted him to ship.  I told him yes, and asked him to throw in a third bag as a sign of good faith and I'd pay him for it if/when it showed up.  He said he would advise once shipped.  That was 5 days ago.  In the meantime I've extended the escrow because he swears that it will show and others are getting their orders.  Even long standing gents are taking back bad things that were said.  Well, not me.

I'm the easiest customer.  I'm the customer you want to deal with.  I'm the customer you love so much you want to give me the shit for free (well, maybe not that much).  You know what I do?  I add an item to my cart, I enter the address to which I want it shipped, I click submit.  I NEVER send a PM unless there is an issue (like once I wasn't planning on getting to my computer for a while and didn't want to leave CP hanging with the money in escrow, so I sent him a PM letting him know it was a possibility).  I know IP has gotten a million PM's, but not a single one from me until today (other than to simply answer his question as to shipping or refunding).  Do I need to start being a pain in the ass?  Do I need to send a million PM's, like dude needs me to tell him that I really really want my heroin?  Is there always a few people that end up getting fucked over and I just make it really easy for one of them to be me because I just hang tight and not say anything? 

I don't know how much dope I've actually paid for to get the one frickin bag (of lame weak shit, I might add) that actually did show up.  Could somebody sell me some?  Could somebody put up a listing and I'll click "purchase" and then money will go into escrow and you'll send some heroin to an address that I provide and I'll release the escrow.  Could we do that?  Somebody!!?!?!?!?

look at what you're buying. the nature of the drug is what makes this happen.

you also sound like a blithering fiend! what a diatribe of a rant!

TOO MUCH INFO!!!

good god man.

get your nuts up.

patience is the game here, and not bursting your bubble like you just did.

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 19, 2011, 12:46 am
If he is overwhelmed he should put a cap on how many he is offering, kinda solves all problems.
Just sayin.

:D

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: kakavkar on August 19, 2011, 01:02 am
was in contact with IP through PM , he told me he must solve his previous orders
i belive we will have succesfull talk later..
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 19, 2011, 01:47 am
Bitcoin>Liberty Reserve>WU

You mean send the Bitcoins Directly to Liberty Reserve?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 19, 2011, 02:07 am
If he is overwhelmed he should put a cap on how many he is offering, kinda solves all problems.
Just sayin.

:D

nomad bloodbath

+1 word up
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 19, 2011, 02:15 am
Bitcoin>Liberty Reserve>WU

You mean send the Bitcoins Directly to Liberty Reserve?


Nope sell your bitcoins for Liberty Reserve on Tradehill.com...if you need a referral code for 10% discount on all transaction PM me.

:D

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 19, 2011, 02:23 am
If he is overwhelmed he should put a cap on how many he is offering, kinda solves all problems.
Just sayin.

:D

nomad bloodbath

Exactly my mistake. I had no idea initially about the escrow. Just was excited  to sell. I guess that's 1 good reason that new sellers have to pay for new accounts.. in that case you HAVE to read up first.

Now I thought would be easy to convert BTC to cash. I want confidence in the system before I invest so much initially. A good reason I should have limited sales... but, I thought I would have money in a day or 2 at best. Now my feedback is at risk again because I'm late again. It's really hard to ship during the week because of my job. I work long hours.

Anyway, I am not selling anything else until I take care of everyone. Don't worry, I always have access to this from many sources so I will never run out. I'm just a bit nervous about sinking cash into something I haven't proven yet since I have not gotten a dime yet. Please remember that I had 7 BTC transferred out of my account without authorization. By the way, props to SR admin, as they are a big help and are going to cover my loss. That's awesome!

Back to business, from now on, I will only post when I have everything in hand and have no problems immediately shipping. I truly did let it slip pretty far for someone nervous about the BTC system and currently waiting to be funded first. Anyone who I haven't shipped yet is welcome to an immediate refund, just ask.

If you haven't received your order at this point, its because I haven't shipped. I am not accusing anyone of lying. Please don't shit talk and say I manufactured feedback because I truly worked hard to make it right. This time i might not be so lucky since in a few cases, I am extremely late. Like I said whoever wants a refund, just ask, and I will do it right away! Please don't be upset that I am waiting for funding as I need to be confident. I am going to try another immediate transfer through another recommended route, I should be funded within a few business days. Once that happens I will ship everything out and invest the money. Once again, refunding anyone is not a problem as I understand and I can easily notify when I am ready to ship immediately and we can re-do the transaction at that point. Just please don't kill my feedback as I might include a little surprise with shipment, like I did already shown on feedback.

Any listing for whatever product I have up on the site is for immediate shipping, again shown through new feedback. Questions? PM me! I am going to get everything straight very soon and will be here for a while providing quality in a VERY timely manner. Thanks for the support while I work out the kinks.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 19, 2011, 03:13 am
Agreed, I'm sticking with my order. Most of us are really desperate for an honest H vendor, so I think you'll find that you get quite a bit of slack.

I don't mind waiting a couple of days extra, I'm just hoping you get things working and stick around for a while.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 19, 2011, 05:15 am
If he is overwhelmed he should put a cap on how many he is offering, kinda solves all problems.
Just sayin.

:D

nomad bloodbath

Exactly my mistake. I had no idea initially about the escrow. Just was excited  to sell. I guess that's 1 good reason that new sellers have to pay for new accounts.. in that case you HAVE to read up first.

Now I thought would be easy to convert BTC to cash. I want confidence in the system before I invest so much initially. A good reason I should have limited sales... but, I thought I would have money in a day or 2 at best. Now my feedback is at risk again because I'm late again. It's really hard to ship during the week because of my job. I work long hours.

Anyway, I am not selling anything else until I take care of everyone. Don't worry, I always have access to this from many sources so I will never run out. I'm just a bit nervous about sinking cash into something I haven't proven yet since I have not gotten a dime yet. Please remember that I had 7 BTC transferred out of my account without authorization. By the way, props to SR admin, as they are a big help and are going to cover my loss. That's awesome!

Back to business, from now on, I will only post when I have everything in hand and have no problems immediately shipping. I truly did let it slip pretty far for someone nervous about the BTC system and currently waiting to be funded first. Anyone who I haven't shipped yet is welcome to an immediate refund, just ask.

If you haven't received your order at this point, its because I haven't shipped. I am not accusing anyone of lying. Please don't shit talk and say I manufactured feedback because I truly worked hard to make it right. This time i might not be so lucky since in a few cases, I am extremely late. Like I said whoever wants a refund, just ask, and I will do it right away! Please don't be upset that I am waiting for funding as I need to be confident. I am going to try another immediate transfer through another recommended route, I should be funded within a few business days. Once that happens I will ship everything out and invest the money. Once again, refunding anyone is not a problem as I understand and I can easily notify when I am ready to ship immediately and we can re-do the transaction at that point. Just please don't kill my feedback as I might include a little surprise with shipment, like I did already shown on feedback.

Any listing for whatever product I have up on the site is for immediate shipping, again shown through new feedback. Questions? PM me! I am going to get everything straight very soon and will be here for a while providing quality in a VERY timely manner. Thanks for the support while I work out the kinks.

+1 no doubt IP. I have renewed respect and you're holding your own. respect for being on point, and i don't want a refund :) I have honestly taken back everything negative. placing an order was part of that. patience is the name of this game - i keep telling everyone that. everyone who is bugging out needs to understand what you're dealing with.

if it takes a week to process that's not good...but if it's a few days people need to chill and to boot, you answer PM's.
i'm sticking it out. like you said you'll have it streamlined and i believe you. you've completely changed my mind.

good luck.

~btcf

Wow, I've been replying to messages thi whole time and still not done. I gotta get sleep for work. I fixed my laptop charger (rigged it) and will get on during the day tomorrow to try and communicate with anyone who hasnt reveived a message.

The reason I said a week max is because in case I don't get the BTC money yet, I have income coming in and WILL satisfy all orders. Next week meaning Wednesday the latest to have all orders satisfied. No more will I sell unless I am ready 100% to ship that day. My promise to the community.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 19, 2011, 06:05 am
To be honest, I'm afraid that SR is going to start calling bullshit on me not receiving my stuff.  I'm just wondering what I've been doing wrong.  My success rate with this place is less than 50%.  I got one bag of H from a guy a long time back that barely vends, two orders of Adderall showed up, some Kratom (just to get rid of BTC basically) and everything else has fallen through, which includes three orders of H (that I can remember) some coke, and all the good stuff.  Oh, chronicpain came through twice with some Opana.  Can't forget him. 

I'm one of the first to order from IP.  I ordered from him before he got his vacuum sealer, back when he was bullshitting about actually sending the stuff.  So, nothing showed up.  He finally came clean about not shipping and came to the boards and said that almost everything went out a week ago (last thursday).  I'm still confused as to why my order wasn't in that batch, but he sent me a PM over the weekend asking if I still wanted him to ship.  I told him yes, and asked him to throw in a third bag as a sign of good faith and I'd pay him for it if/when it showed up.  He said he would advise once shipped.  That was 5 days ago.  In the meantime I've extended the escrow because he swears that it will show and others are getting their orders.  Even long standing gents are taking back bad things that were said.  Well, not me.

I'm the easiest customer.  I'm the customer you want to deal with.  I'm the customer you love so much you want to give me the shit for free (well, maybe not that much).  You know what I do?  I add an item to my cart, I enter the address to which I want it shipped, I click submit.  I NEVER send a PM unless there is an issue (like once I wasn't planning on getting to my computer for a while and didn't want to leave CP hanging with the money in escrow, so I sent him a PM letting him know it was a possibility).  I know IP has gotten a million PM's, but not a single one from me until today (other than to simply answer his question as to shipping or refunding).  Do I need to start being a pain in the ass?  Do I need to send a million PM's, like dude needs me to tell him that I really really want my heroin?  Is there always a few people that end up getting fucked over and I just make it really easy for one of them to be me because I just hang tight and not say anything? 

I don't know how much dope I've actually paid for to get the one frickin bag (of lame weak shit, I might add) that actually did show up.  Could somebody sell me some?  Could somebody put up a listing and I'll click "purchase" and then money will go into escrow and you'll send some heroin to an address that I provide and I'll release the escrow.  Could we do that?  Somebody!!?!?!?!?

Refund?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 19, 2011, 07:15 am
History is repeating itself again.  Go back and read threads on other vendors in this area, and check who said what  There are no legitimate excuses and no need to cut slack.  Responsible people with integrity have been distributing this substance successfully throughout the world for a long time without becoming "overwhelmed", and that is how any of us even know of it. 

  The nature of the substance is irrelevant, it's simply business.  Because this market is so small no one truly serious has stepped up to fulfill demand yet.  Sorry,  all the wishful thinking in the world won't make this case better than the previous.  This thread is a chronicle of rank amateurism, admitted lies and excuses.  Consumers need to insist on professionalism, and if not, will suffer the consequences at their own peril.  Have fun waiting.  Local F2F's will cause you less frustration than what's going on here. 

IP, I withheld judgment when BTCfreedom started making unfounded allegations about you being LE.  But everything else negative you created yourself by not understanding the market before jumping in.  You're not LE, and I'm sure your shit is pure as reported, But everything else you've done  has made you look unprofessional, and it's all well documented here.  Other vendors are delivering in a timely fashion without making excuses.  Sorry.
 
@BTCFreedom spare yourself the trouble of telling me to cure my weeping man-pussy.  You change your mind so frequently that it should be obvious that your opinions hold little weight.  Soon you'll be saying that this thread makes you sick, and you'll move on to vacillating over some other dead beat vendor.   The prolific nature of your posting does not prove you have any integrity, in fact anyone who cares to read your history of posting is assured to discover that integrity is exactly what you lack.  Have fun waiting!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 19, 2011, 07:43 am
univac, I don't know where you get your information but "waiting for the dope man" is an ubiquitous aspect of buying smack. The only difference is, in real life you're waiting for a couple of hours for the dope to get across town, whereas here you're waiting a few days but the dope's gotta get across the country.

I'm not going to pretend I'm not wishing my order was in my veins but hell, dude's new to the game and learning. People have to make mistakes to learn from them, and my general experience of IP is that he is inexperienced but has the best intentions.

Believe me, I'm aching bad for a shot as I type this, but shit, at the moment I don't have a car so I can't get to the city to meet my normal dealer. I just consider myself extremely lucky to have a service like SR available.

If you don't approve of IP's methods, don't order--I'd bet he's got enough business anyway. The rest of us are just going to keep our fingers crossed that dude straightens this shit out real soon and sends us our boy. If he hooks it up, it'll be well worth the wait.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 19, 2011, 11:25 am
univac, I don't know where you get your information but "waiting for the dope man" is an ubiquitous aspect of buying smack. The only difference is, in real life you're waiting for a couple of hours for the dope to get across town, whereas here you're waiting a few days but the dope's gotta get across the country.

I'm not going to pretend I'm not wishing my order was in my veins but hell, dude's new to the game and learning. People have to make mistakes to learn from them, and my general experience of IP is that he is inexperienced but has the best intentions.

Believe me, I'm aching bad for a shot as I type this, but shit, at the moment I don't have a car so I can't get to the city to meet my normal dealer. I just consider myself extremely lucky to have a service like SR available.

If you don't approve of IP's methods, don't order--I'd bet he's got enough business anyway. The rest of us are just going to keep our fingers crossed that dude straightens this shit out real soon and sends us our boy. If he hooks it up, it'll be well worth the wait.

Agreed.  There's a lot to wrap your head around when starting this kind of enterprise.  The (mostly) anonymous nature and hassles with exchangers just makes it all the more difficult.  I keep trying to picture myself in his position and I can 100% see where he's coming from, and why he'd make the excuses he did.  There's a lot to the SR selling process, which it looks as though he's figuring out.  I'm reserving judgement for later, though I'm pretty sure he'll come through.  If not, oh well.  That's why we have escrow.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 19, 2011, 12:00 pm
univac, here's how it is. open your eyes and read -

this particular drug has a VERY distinct nature that must be accepted...you have no argument...where have you gotten heroin online

reliably? nowhere. in fact when have you gotten it at ALL reliably? unless you can share an experience, you have no information.

other vendors are delivering timely sure - but not heroin. get with it and open your eyes.

what truly irks me is your persistent focus on my activity on here. contribute and appreciate, don't hate. get off my nuts.

you are starting to become a blithering troll.

i do not lack integrity - i possess an open mind

which may or may not change opinions whenever the fuck i want.

which is appreciated by mods and Silk Road.

i react with paranoia, scan the person up and down in and out - and then contribute to our community - with the safety confirming

someone's legit. whether you like the way i do that doesn't lift a hair on my nutsack.

let's keep this thread where it was, you're making waves.

ItalianPilot is a probable excellent future seller that WILL become reliable, and WILL be on point once he gets his ducks in line.

He is a good person, communicates, and definitely not LE. We arrived at that conclusion after careful screening.

That's all I mean to say, but of course you have to read into everything I post like some sorta gay stalker. sad.


have a nice weekend and stay off my internet lawn!!!!

B

Nomad apologies in advance but this bloob needed it.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 19, 2011, 02:36 pm
@btcfreedom

  Don't take it personally.  You post frequently enough and speak with an air of authority as if you were moderating this thread.  You're asking for attention by doing that, and some of the things you say may draw fire.  I have experienced reliable delivery services in different cities.  People involved were perhaps not users.

  My intention is to represent a critical approach.  Lying to clients about when something shipped ain't cool, and we shouldn't have to put up with it.  But if we tolerate it,  make excuses, pray and hope for the best,  can we reasonably expect things to improve?  Wouldn't you like to see a vendor on par with the well known top vendors here?  Do you really think that's impossible simply because of the nature of the substance? 

  I'm advocating consumer rights and holding vendor's to high standards.   The only thing I can do is not order.  One day someone will come onto SR and sell this product the right way and you'll see that it's not impossible.  Until then, roxy 30s.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 19, 2011, 06:09 pm
OK guys let's end this back and forth, each of you do what is best for you and each of you deal with those consequences. Enough said on this topic.

:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Antacid on August 19, 2011, 07:27 pm
haaaawwwwwwwww
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 20, 2011, 01:32 am
Any updates on the situation?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 20, 2011, 01:41 am
OK guys let's end this back and forth, each of you do what is best for you and each of you deal with those consequences. Enough said on this topic.

:D
nomad bloodbath

Damn, Nomad... I had just popped a fresh bag of popcorn, too.  Party-pooper.  ;)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 20, 2011, 04:03 am
Seeing the bags listing back up is definitely a good sign  ;D
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 20, 2011, 04:09 am
Do I have to make an order to review this vendor?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 20, 2011, 04:36 am
Do I have to make an order to review this vendor?

I believe you might have to do that. ;)

b
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: audiophilia on August 20, 2011, 07:04 am
Do I have to make an order to review this vendor?

HAH! God the more and more I sit here and read your posts I think I want to buy some FOR you!! Dude, this thread -- amongst others -- is a perfect example as to why I am reading everything about BTC transfer, best ways to make a customer happy and be an honest motherfucker before I start my business here. As honest as one can be when they fuck their mother ;) hahah..

If one person hears an excuse come out of my mouth I will go ahead and shoot myself before I have to eat my words...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sjg690 on August 20, 2011, 10:01 am
@btcfreedom:  I don't care how many times you've posted.  I could sit here all day and post a million times.  Does that make me "experienced?"  Have I not shown more patience by not posting all the time?

Your hypocrisy is quite pathetic.  In this very thread you ripped IP from the start, making all kinds of accusations.  Now you are asking for patience?  Doesn't it make more sense to have patience at the beginning when somebody is just starting out?  You had it backwards dude.  You should have kept your mouth shut back then, or offered some guidance.  Forgiveness is advisable, in my opinion, when somebody is just starting.  But the longer he sells the more slack he should get?  It was ok to rip him when he started but it isn't ok now?  At what point, exactly, did criticizing him go from being perfectly acceptable to being unacceptable, and why is it that YOU get to decide when that is? 

I defended Illy, even though I didn't get anything from her, mainly because she didn't lie.  I didn't say to keep buying from her (and I never got my order) but at least she was honest.  IP lied from the beginning by telling me it was shipped.  Then he came clean with that, said he was sorry, and that he really did ship (super pinky swear).  That was a lie too.  Then he told me again via PM that he lied the second time and asked if I wanted a refund or the product.  I was polite to him even then, and asked him to ship.  He said that he would and send a confirmation.  No information came, so I asked again and he said that not only was the product never shipped, not even now, but that he didn't even have any on hand.  This was just today.

I guess, btcfreedom, this is all perfectly ok with you because he is selling H.  I call bullshit.  It is either ok or it isn't, and I can't believe that you would defend somebody who admittedly lies repeatedly to customers.  Doing this after condemning the person yourself is just plain pathetic.  Again, as time goes on the expectations should be raised, not lowered.

I understand the nature of H.  He might get killed when trying to get the crap.  He might go to jail or whatever.  There are all kinds of risks, but nobody is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to lie to my face repeatedly.  I don't mind if it just doesn't show.  I don't mind if he cancels the order and just disappears.  I don't mind if he just disappears.  Hell, all kinds of crap could happen.  I do mind being lied to repeatedly and without remorse.

@IP:  the right thing to do is to just tell me that you're sorry and that you will ship right away and try to make it right.  Then, actually ship and confirm the shipment.  Throwing in a bag or adding some weight as a sign of good faith (for which I'd be happy to pay) would give you a lot of credibility here.  The first step is honesty.

I really don't know what it is with vendors.  This isn't the first time that a vendor has just lied repeatedly and admittedly tried to screw me over.  The worst part is that they always say something like, "but that doesn't give you any reason to be upset or lash out..."  Well, actually it does.  Believe it or not, repeatedly lying to a person's face might piss them off.

@BTC, one more question, exactly what information was too much?  I remember laying out some facts about this transaction and how I felt about those facts, which is actually what this thread is for and, in my opinion, should be limited to.  Or, just facts about the transaction.  I think people should know that IP lied to me three times now.  I also think that they should be aware of the fact that he doesn't seem to have any remorse whatsoever.  Now, if he makes good on his promise to, well, make good, I will post that here as well.  If BTCfreedom is getting sick of my "rants" perhaps he should encourage IP to stop lying and actually send people their orders as promised.  Can you believe that that this guy has been lying repeatedly, all the while my money is tied up in escrow, and I'm the bad guy? 

Seriously, WTF?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 20, 2011, 12:23 pm
@btcfreedom:  I don't care how many times you've posted.  I could sit here all day and post a million times.  Does that make me "experienced?"  Have I not shown more patience by not posting all the time?

Your hypocrisy is quite pathetic.  In this very thread you ripped IP from the start, making all kinds of accusations.  Now you are asking for patience?  Doesn't it make more sense to have patience at the beginning when somebody is just starting out?  You had it backwards dude.  You should have kept your mouth shut back then, or offered some guidance.  Forgiveness is advisable, in my opinion, when somebody is just starting.  But the longer he sells the more slack he should get?  It was ok to rip him when he started but it isn't ok now?  At what point, exactly, did criticizing him go from being perfectly acceptable to being unacceptable, and why is it that YOU get to decide when that is? 

I defended Illy, even though I didn't get anything from her, mainly because she didn't lie.  I didn't say to keep buying from her (and I never got my order) but at least she was honest.  IP lied from the beginning by telling me it was shipped.  Then he came clean with that, said he was sorry, and that he really did ship (super pinky swear).  That was a lie too.  Then he told me again via PM that he lied the second time and asked if I wanted a refund or the product.  I was polite to him even then, and asked him to ship.  He said that he would and send a confirmation.  No information came, so I asked again and he said that not only was the product never shipped, not even now, but that he didn't even have any on hand.  This was just today.

I guess, btcfreedom, this is all perfectly ok with you because he is selling H.  I call bullshit.  It is either ok or it isn't, and I can't believe that you would defend somebody who admittedly lies repeatedly to customers.  Doing this after condemning the person yourself is just plain pathetic.  Again, as time goes on the expectations should be raised, not lowered.

I understand the nature of H.  He might get killed when trying to get the crap.  He might go to jail or whatever.  There are all kinds of risks, but nobody is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to lie to my face repeatedly.  I don't mind if it just doesn't show.  I don't mind if he cancels the order and just disappears.  I don't mind if he just disappears.  Hell, all kinds of crap could happen.  I do mind being lied to repeatedly and without remorse.

@IP:  the right thing to do is to just tell me that you're sorry and that you will ship right away and try to make it right.  Then, actually ship and confirm the shipment.  Throwing in a bag or adding some weight as a sign of good faith (for which I'd be happy to pay) would give you a lot of credibility here.  The first step is honesty.

I really don't know what it is with vendors.  This isn't the first time that a vendor has just lied repeatedly and admittedly tried to screw me over.  The worst part is that they always say something like, "but that doesn't give you any reason to be upset or lash out..."  Well, actually it does.  Believe it or not, repeatedly lying to a person's face might piss them off.

@BTC, one more question, exactly what information was too much?  I remember laying out some facts about this transaction and how I felt about those facts, which is actually what this thread is for and, in my opinion, should be limited to.  Or, just facts about the transaction.  I think people should know that IP lied to me three times now.  I also think that they should be aware of the fact that he doesn't seem to have any remorse whatsoever.  Now, if he makes good on his promise to, well, make good, I will post that here as well.  If BTCfreedom is getting sick of my "rants" perhaps he should encourage IP to stop lying and actually send people their orders as promised.  Can you believe that that this guy has been lying repeatedly, all the while my money is tied up in escrow, and I'm the bad guy? 

Seriously, WTF?

u mad

u also not listen to mod. give it a rest.

btcf
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 20, 2011, 01:05 pm
No the repeated lying and holding btc's in escrow is unacceptable.

Italian Pilot you have quite some ground to cover before you are in good graces here.
Let's hope you learn form this and give your vending account a rebirth, because frankly it's not looking good for you.

:D

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: alchedmy808 on August 20, 2011, 02:23 pm
pm said my order would ship Monday, with extras for the wait....I was one of the first to order as well. He promised me it would be here by Friday....It's Saturday.

He offered me a refund. Said cash converting was difficult. Just gonna be patient.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: cosmos on August 20, 2011, 05:35 pm
no point making these assumptions IMO - didn't anyone else notice that (at least as soon as I saw the bag pop back up yesterday) it was only qty. 1? can't you check "stock" by adding it to cart and checking the MAX? because it was only 1. ok, joining in on the assumptions game here; an order got canceled/refunded, thus that qty. 1 was seen as back in stock by SR.

i'd say just sit tight and wait for IP himself to let us know when these will be shipping.

nothing wrong with wishful thinking, I'm just more of a realist  ;)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 20, 2011, 07:16 pm
^ That's a very good point. I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: chronicpain on August 21, 2011, 01:09 am
LOl, that happened with me too. I had to cancel an order and a few hours someone pm'd asking about the product. I had forgotten that when a order is canceled, it shows back up in the market.... Obviously, that's what's happened here...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: uniwiz on August 21, 2011, 02:04 am
I'm still missing somerthing.

Where do these glowing reviews come from?

"5 of 5   it arrived and its fucking awesome! communication with the seller was great and even though it took a min to get here, it was worth it and now he knows how things work so im sure the next order will come a lot quicker...ill definitely order again!   item   4 days
5 of 5   against what i thought was gonna happen... IT DID ARRIVE!
the stuff is really bitter for powder tho, almost tastes like powdered tar..but its real strong and def worth the price. WILL BUY FROM AGAIN!   item   4 days
5 of 5   Quality fucking product. A++++

I'm so glad I didn't do both bags in one shot, I fell out after just one.   item   4 days"

I'm noticing vendors getting good reviews even BEFORE product is delivered.
Whats up with that?

The review system needs improvement, no?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 21, 2011, 02:15 am
^ Apparently, people who've placed orders in the past have received. It's just that IP has not yet shipped the orders placed more recently.

To tell all of you the truth, it's taking a lot of patience to just wait for him to ship. I want to be supportive and I want this guy to succeed badly so that there's a reliable dealer of quality heroin on SR. On the other hand, I'm very tempted to cancel and order some dillies/opanas from envy instead.

I'm going to stick to my guns for now, though.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 21, 2011, 02:26 am
I'm still missing somerthing.

Where do these glowing reviews come from?

"5 of 5   it arrived and its fucking awesome! communication with the seller was great and even though it took a min to get here, it was worth it and now he knows how things work so im sure the next order will come a lot quicker...ill definitely order again!   item   4 days
5 of 5   against what i thought was gonna happen... IT DID ARRIVE!
the stuff is really bitter for powder tho, almost tastes like powdered tar..but its real strong and def worth the price. WILL BUY FROM AGAIN!   item   4 days
5 of 5   Quality fucking product. A++++

I'm so glad I didn't do both bags in one shot, I fell out after just one.   item   4 days"

I'm noticing vendors getting good reviews even BEFORE product is delivered.
Whats up with that?

The review system needs improvement, no?


Using Tor there is no way around faking feedback, unfortunately.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 21, 2011, 02:34 am
In his post of August 19th IP promises to ship no later than Wednesday of next week (August 24). 

Quote
The reason I said a week max is because in case I don't get the BTC money yet, I have income coming in and WILL satisfy all orders. Next week meaning Wednesday the latest to have all orders satisfied. No more will I sell unless I am ready 100% to ship that day. My promise to the community.

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 21, 2011, 06:08 am


HAH! God the more and more I sit here and read your posts I think I want to buy some FOR you!! Dude, this thread -- amongst others -- is a perfect example as to why I am reading everything about BTC transfer, best ways to make a customer happy and be an honest motherfucker before I start my business here. As honest as one can be when they fuck their mother ;) hahah..

If one person hears an excuse come out of my mouth I will go ahead and shoot myself before I have to eat my words...

You obviously don't understand "the way of the horse".  LOL
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 21, 2011, 06:11 am


i'd say just sit tight and wait for IP himself to let us know when these will be shipping.


Does anyone have a choice?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 22, 2011, 01:12 am
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really hoping for some good news soon.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 22, 2011, 01:25 am
Everyone is. :D
But "the proof is in the pudding", which means his feedback will be proof within a 4-5 day period.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 22, 2011, 01:33 am
^ True, true. The thing is, when I placed my order I was in withdrawal. Now, I'm not even dope sick anymore. Oh well, if this guy hooks it up (which he said he would), then I think it's worth the wait. Besides, we've stuck it out for so long, a few more days isn't so bad 8)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 22, 2011, 10:20 am
Nomad- That first 5/5 review thays says it was fucking awesome, came from me...latest order still processing like the rest but ive been told Tuesday at the latest...hes probably waiting for the money to  hit his bank or something like that...i know that can take a few days...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 22, 2011, 10:41 am
Nomad- That first 5/5 review thays says it was fucking awesome, came from me...latest order still processing like the rest but ive been told Tuesday at the latest...hes probably waiting for the money to  hit his bank or something like that...i know that can take a few days...

Sounds good I want to see 10 positive feedbacks this week and then I will be satisfied the time being.

:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 23, 2011, 12:50 am
so has anyone been in contact with IP the last few days? wondering what the latest shipping estimate was. i may send him a pm i just didn't want to hound the guy with the same question he must be getting 50 times a day.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 23, 2011, 02:45 am
^ +1 on that. If anybody hears anything let me know. I don't want to bug him either, it might only hinder the process of him shipping out the boy.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mr.wizard on August 23, 2011, 03:14 am
^ +1 on that. If anybody hears anything let me know. I don't want to bug him either, it might only hinder the process of him shipping out the boy.

It would be lovely to hear from him since his "individual bag" has popped up a couple of times over the past few days.  I assume it's people cancelling their order since it has yet to be put "in transit."  I'm all for being patient, it just would be nice to get another update for all of the pending buyers since the new week has started.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 23, 2011, 04:54 am
Another person just cancelled an order apparently. I really hope IP's got some good news soon, it's taking a lot of patience (and love for heroin) to just stay hanging. I've been tempted a few times to just get my money back and get some of envy's dilaudid and opanas, but I just love heroin so much more. I want my dope man  ;D
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: envious on August 23, 2011, 05:13 am
Dope man dope man ghetto spokesman. :)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 23, 2011, 05:27 pm
Well... I sent IP a pm today. If he gets back with me I'll post an update.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 23, 2011, 07:39 pm
I've sent IP several messages since placing my order, haven't gotten a single one except to say that he couldn't open my PGP'd message.  One more day of this crap and I'm canceling my order and ordering something else from someone else.  What a waste of time this has been.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 23, 2011, 08:12 pm
I sent him a PM too. It's been a week since I placed my order and I'm running out of patience.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on August 23, 2011, 09:10 pm
i have just placed an order with IP as well. I did it in two parts to match an agreement we made using pm. i haven't heard anything from him since the first part of the order. i will keep all posted here. like others i may just give up on this crap unless a decent vendor emerges.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 23, 2011, 09:23 pm
Cancelled my order. I have a connection for great dope, but I don't have a car to go get it. In this time, I could've walked to my fucking dealers house.

I am going to place an order with envy. Opana is supposed to be the shit, from what I hear.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 24, 2011, 12:04 am
Wow, I've been replying to messages thi whole time and still not done. I gotta get sleep for work. I fixed my laptop charger (rigged it) and will get on during the day tomorrow to try and communicate with anyone who hasnt reveived a message.

The reason I said a week max is because in case I don't get the BTC money yet, I have income coming in and WILL satisfy all orders. Next week meaning Wednesday the latest to have all orders satisfied. No more will I sell unless I am ready 100% to ship that day. My promise to the community.

  Anyone who's still waiting should know by end of day tomorrow if  status turns to "in transit"  otherwise IP has broken the promise he made above.  Then packages should arrive within 2-3 days.  Right?  I'm not naive enough to think that lying isn't part of business, but to tell lies you will inevitably get caught in, well, seems to tarnish one's reputation, no?

 As Normal says, IP,  still a lot of ground to cover before you are in good graces. 

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Godhand212 on August 24, 2011, 12:14 am
I'm still gonna stick with this one. As some of you make think its stupid, but he has only shown that he may be late. I received a PM from him Sunday stating that it would be sent out Tuesday at the latest. I would like to also point out that he hasn't asked me to release payment. Yes it has taken him forever to send this shit and he has made reasonable excuses on why he can't send yet.

What do I have to lose? Not any BTC, Just wasted time. Plus he said he would throw in a special surprise for those who have dealt with his tardiness. So call me a fool, but I think he will come through and now know what challenges he faces in this type of dope game. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Alchemy807 on August 24, 2011, 12:51 am
ok it's Tuesday where I live.....still "processing" this "tuesday at the latest" shit is getting old. The excuses....just not adding up.I hope he comes through. Not saying I cant go cop right now but i'm really in to this SR thing and I have had some great luck here.
But this vendor has brought the most problems for me....he promised something extra for the wait....if I could wait until Tuesday....well it's Tuesday night and i'm going to give him 24 more hours to get his stuff together then call it quits.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 24, 2011, 02:26 am
I suggest everyone in this thread slightly verve your head to the side for a moment and reconsider Oxymorphone (Opana) instead of these sketchy Heroin dealers.

Just a suggestion, but a very experienced suggestion ;)

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 24, 2011, 02:37 am
I suggest everyone in this thread slightly verve your head to the side for a moment and reconsider Oxymorphone (Opana) instead of these sketchy Heroin dealers.

Just a suggestion, but a very experienced suggestion ;)

nomad bloodbath

yeah... oxymorphone and hydromorphone are aaaaaaaaaaalmost as good as dope and readily available on SR. thats what i'm doing in the meantime. but i'm still giving IP a chance.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Alchemy807 on August 24, 2011, 02:44 am
I would.....except i'm on 130 mgs of methadone a day and well.....pills don't do jack for me....tried the opana 40's....tried all that jive....bad news is i gotta get some dope or some fentanyl to get me off...thinking about switching to try some other stuff.....bought some K tonight, gonna try and im it when i get it. I have been reading up on it and it sounds fun. I have had some really good vendors here on SR in the month or so I have been here.....but no H, no matter.....there is other cool stuff out there....just got my benzos in so i'm chillin'....just wish this IP guy would make a move.....

He promised that by Tuesday night my order would have shipped "with extras".....blah blah....maybe i'll just cancel and order some more K lol......
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 24, 2011, 02:51 am
I just wanted to chime in here and say that opana is actually ten times more potent than morphine, where as heroin is only two-three times as potent. I still prefer the actual euphoria of heroin, but oxymorphone is actually more likely to "break through" the methadone blockade than heroin. Methadone is powerful shit.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Alchemy807 on August 24, 2011, 02:55 am
yes it is!!! I have some fent on the way and i know that breaks through.... but i cannot seem to find a method (haven;t researched) a way to im oxymorphone.....i had some opana 40's but not sure I think i ate them....didn't think i could iv them....
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 24, 2011, 03:06 am
IMing pills is just bad news. Shooting pills in general is bad because of the binders and fillers, but plenty of people do it and live. But IM injection of pills is seriously asking for an abscess or infection, especially when the pill has a time relax matrix that has even more binders/fillers than a standard pill.

There actually is a method to IV the opana ER pills. I can not actually attest to it, but use Google and look up the method on opiophile. Just be careful, it involves evaporating alcohol and this can cause a fireball very easily. Better to heat it on, say, an iron laying on its side or something of that sort.

Anyways, has anybody heard anything from IP at all? What happened to the guy?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 24, 2011, 03:16 am
IMing pills is just bad news. Shooting pills in general is bad because of the binders and fillers, but plenty of people do it and live. But IM injection of pills is seriously asking for an abscess or infection, especially when the pill has a time relax matrix that has even more binders/fillers than a standard pill.

There actually is a method to IV the opana ER pills. I can not actually attest to it, but use Google and look up the method on opiophile. Just be careful, it involves evaporating alcohol and this can cause a fireball very easily. Better to heat it on, say, an iron laying on its side or something of that sort.

Anyways, has anybody heard anything from IP at all? What happened to the guy?

QFT
Also I've been IVing oxymorph for the last two weeks using my suggested ISO extraction method in the Drug Safety forum.

:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: oinkfat on August 24, 2011, 03:34 am
Read my opana IV method posted.  It's far safer, and far more potent than the ISO method.  Only downfall is you gotta wait 24 hours.  But there's NO binder or filler, it's by far the safest method I know of and if done properly, 1 opana 40mg ER will last you days (if 1 opana ER insufflated can hold you for a day, this will last you 3 days or more)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 24, 2011, 05:16 am
This just in from IP!

From: italianpilot(100)
2 minutes ago
re: nyc d
please pass word that i am shipping out everything between tomorrow and thursday. thanks for your support! all orders that were late are being hooked up a bit. thanks for your patience!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 24, 2011, 06:21 am
Thats right everyone. I sent notification to everyone. I haven't been on here in a while and haven't even read any new posts yet but I can imagine everyone is curious as to when the hell I am shipping. Everything is going out! Thank you to those who have been extremely patient.

From now on if you see an ad, it means you can be confident and expect immediate shipping. I am fully confident in my methods and feel pretty safe. One question.....

I tried backing up my wallet.dat file and that's all good however, is it true that when I am ready to use them I have to use them in the same installation of the bitcoin client? I tried installing the file in another installation and the only thing that came up was the history. The wallet showed empty. When I copied the file back in the folder of the original installation, everything was good. The history came up AND i had the correct balance.

It would be nice if I could save the wallet.dat file somewhere and in case the original computer breaks down or something that I will be able to simply copy the file and overwrite the empty walet.dat file in another installation and have access to my money. Am I doing something wrong? Maybe after copying the wallet.dat file to another installation of bitcoin I need to wait for a certain amount of confirmations? Hmmm. Any advice would be awesome.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 24, 2011, 06:25 am
History is repeating itself again.  Go back and read threads on other vendors in this area, and check who said what  There are no legitimate excuses and no need to cut slack.  Responsible people with integrity have been distributing this substance successfully throughout the world for a long time without becoming "overwhelmed", and that is how any of us even know of it. 

  The nature of the substance is irrelevant, it's simply business.  Because this market is so small no one truly serious has stepped up to fulfill demand yet.  Sorry,  all the wishful thinking in the world won't make this case better than the previous.  This thread is a chronicle of rank amateurism, admitted lies and excuses.  Consumers need to insist on professionalism, and if not, will suffer the consequences at their own peril.  Have fun waiting.  Local F2F's will cause you less frustration than what's going on here. 

IP, I withheld judgment when BTCfreedom started making unfounded allegations about you being LE.  But everything else negative you created yourself by not understanding the market before jumping in.  You're not LE, and I'm sure your shit is pure as reported, But everything else you've done  has made you look unprofessional, and it's all well documented here.  Other vendors are delivering in a timely fashion without making excuses.  Sorry.
 
@BTCFreedom spare yourself the trouble of telling me to cure my weeping man-pussy.  You change your mind so frequently that it should be obvious that your opinions hold little weight.  Soon you'll be saying that this thread makes you sick, and you'll move on to vacillating over some other dead beat vendor.   The prolific nature of your posting does not prove you have any integrity, in fact anyone who cares to read your history of posting is assured to discover that integrity is exactly what you lack.  Have fun waiting!

prick
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 24, 2011, 06:32 am
Seeing the bags listing back up is definitely a good sign  ;D

It was a mistake. I didn't even know it went back up. What happened was that I placed some refunds and it automatically upped my quantity and re-listed the ad. When I place my ad up again, I am ready for business.. No more of this bullshit making you guys wait. By the way whoever said I wasn't professional....

I'm fuking selling dope. When was the last time you saw a dealer in a suit. Idiot makes me laugh. I am professional when I have to be. Now, being respectful is another story. I guess I can be a bit rude and I may not be up to par on "online etiquette" but being called a cop gets under my skin a bit. Sorry if I have offended. Anyway, I gotta get to bed. Peace
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 24, 2011, 10:52 am
History is repeating itself again.  Go back and read threads on other vendors in this area, and check who said what  There are no legitimate excuses and no need to cut slack.  Responsible people with integrity have been distributing this substance successfully throughout the world for a long time without becoming "overwhelmed", and that is how any of us even know of it. 

  The nature of the substance is irrelevant, it's simply business.  Because this market is so small no one truly serious has stepped up to fulfill demand yet.  Sorry,  all the wishful thinking in the world won't make this case better than the previous.  This thread is a chronicle of rank amateurism, admitted lies and excuses.  Consumers need to insist on professionalism, and if not, will suffer the consequences at their own peril.  Have fun waiting.  Local F2F's will cause you less frustration than what's going on here. 

IP, I withheld judgment when BTCfreedom started making unfounded allegations about you being LE.  But everything else negative you created yourself by not understanding the market before jumping in.  You're not LE, and I'm sure your shit is pure as reported, But everything else you've done  has made you look unprofessional, and it's all well documented here.  Other vendors are delivering in a timely fashion without making excuses.  Sorry.
prick

junkie is mad.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 24, 2011, 11:02 am
Seeing the bags listing back up is definitely a good sign  ;D
I'm fuking selling dope. When was the last time you saw a dealer in a suit. Idiot makes me laugh. I am professional when I have to be. Now, being respectful is another story. I guess I can be a bit rude and I may not be up to par on "online etiquette" but being called a cop gets under my skin a bit. Sorry if I have offended. Anyway, I gotta get to bed. Peace

IP, you're professional when you need your fix, who the fuck are you kidding? And you have no respect for people's time or BTC.

Look at this thread man! People sitting and waiting with no responses from you....you've made this image for yourself.

That's not online etiquette. That's simple brains. Maybe you SHOULD put on a suit.

If you can't stand the heat get outta the kitchen.

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 24, 2011, 05:42 pm
In IP's defense... He has returned all of my messages and with courtesy.

He told me from the beginning that he had a few setbacks and he wouldn't be able to ship till sometime this week. He is a new vendor after all.

And how do we know IP hasn't been getting classic junkie anger messages like, "where is my shit that I haven't even paid you for yet you fucking fuck?!" all day long?

If the guy ships by Thursday I'll be happy.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 24, 2011, 09:19 pm
I'm honestly quite irritated by the whole ordeal. I placed an order over a week ago. He told me there would be some kind of wait, and I was patient. But then, after not hearing from him for a few days even after sending a PM, I cancelled my order and spent my bitcoin elsewhere. Then, that very night, he finally got back to me and said he would ship my order the next day, which of course he can't because I cancelled it. I know he's new but some better communication would've been great in this situation.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 25, 2011, 12:02 am
IP has always answered my messages too...if your habit is that bad..then you really shouldn't depend on getting your fix via usps...patience is a virtue...so everything should have gone out today but my order is still processing:( probably just  a mistake...only time will tell...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 25, 2011, 01:01 am
IP has always answered my messages too...if your habit is that bad..then you really shouldn't depend on getting your fix via usps...patience is a virtue...so everything should have gone out today but my order is still processing:( probably just  a mistake...only time will tell...

Mine says it's still processing as well.  Dude needs to communicate a little more effectively.  Just my theory, but I'd be willing to bet everyone's orders say the same.  He mentioned in one of his messages from last night (I think it was a mass message to all buyers) that he can only get onto SR late at night, so if he did ship, he should be updating the status of the orders tonight. 

Not holding my breath, but looking forward to my order shipping.  I figure there's no need to cancel my order now when there's a chance it could be arriving soon.  I've been waiting long enough, another couple days won't kill me.  All I can say for sure is that this shit better be really good.   :D
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Alchemy807 on August 25, 2011, 01:19 am
I got the "mass" email as well....

One good thing I have to say about IP is that he has replied to EVERY pm i have sent him.....and I sent him 4 yesterday.....because he swore up and down that he would ship by Tuesday. So now it is Wednesday night and.....He promised to ship by Thursday.......which means I MIGHT get my order by Saturday.....probably Monday though.....

I want to stay on this guys side and when he ships my order and I get it I will have faith, as will a lot of us.

Thank goodness for Methadone.....I'm going to have to skip a couple doses to get high lol......hopefully...IP....it will be worth it...until then i'll just sit back and wait for my other crap.

I really wish pills did something for me, but they don't, dillies, oxy, morphone, none of that stuff breaks through the methadone....only fentanyl and iv'e got some of that on the way (hopefully)....
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 25, 2011, 03:15 am
I really wish pills did something for me, but they don't, dillies, oxy, morphone, none of that stuff breaks through the methadone....only fentanyl and iv'e got some of that on the way (hopefully)....

Yikes...  Statements like that make me feel lucky that I mostly chip, save the one-to-two week sprints I take now and again with oxies and/or tea.  When I do need maintenance, there are a few bulk foods stores in the area that carry unwashed poppy seeds.  Always good in a pinch, and the seeds usually have enough dried-up alkaloids on them that I can almost always get a nice high.

At any rate, looks like he's coming through.  I see that mine's marked "In transit" now.  Hoping I get mine by Saturday, but again, not holding my breath.  Thanks for getting in touch with us and updating the status messages, IP.  Hopefully things are getting smoothed out and future orders will be sent out as quickly as you say. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sjg690 on August 25, 2011, 07:17 am
I feel fortunate that I don't have any kind of dependency to this stuff or anything else.  It seems that these are the only people that can truly say how they feel about IP and people like him.  I feel bad for the dope sick among us who feel the need to suck IP's cock in the hopes that their "medicine" will finally show up.

I see that BTCF flip flopped again.  First he was all over IP, then he was bashing me for sharing my experience with him, and now he's bashing IP again.  I don't have time to check this thread every day, but each time I come here it is amusing.

IP gets very upset every time somebody calls him out on his dishonesty.  Items are not supposed to be listed at all unless the vendor has them on hand to actually ship, so why he is even allowing people to place orders for stuff he doesn't even have is beyond me, but this is just where his dishonesty starts.  I placed an order when his very first listing appeared (over a month ago if I'm not mistaken).  He gave me a refund only in the past couple of days, even though I asked him to ship the product when he had it.  Then he told me to go fuck myself.  He listed a product that he didn't have (he could have told me) updated to "in transit" before he even had it on hand, then shipped a bunch of orders that had been placed more recently than mine without shipping mine, after which he asked if I still wanted him to ship (I said yes) and then he said again that he would ship but he didn't.  In the meantime, I didn't say one bad word to him or give him any indication that I was even upset.  I simply extended the transit time to give him more time to make good on my order.  A week later it hadn't showed and he hadn't gotten back to me.  This is when I finally got pissed and told him what I really thought.  His response was that I should go fuck myself. 

I don't need the money and I don't need the dope.  I can let a thousand BTCs sit in escrow for months and it really wouldn't matter to me, but I can't, in good faith, place another order with IP because it really seems to me that he is the type of person to lace the dope with cyanide or something like that, as he honestly feels that he is the one being victimized here.  Being a dope dealer isn't a license to be a dishonest prick.  I ordered from Illy (which didn't show) but never went off on her because she seemed like an honest girl who understood that she was the reason that everybody was pissed off.

@italianpilot:  those who place an order with you and don't receive shipment are going to be upset.  Everybody on here buying understands the nature of this beast and half expect each order to not show.  It honestly isn't too much to ask somebody, anybody (even a heroin dealer) to actually do what they say.  What you need to do is stop.  You need to remove all of your listings, go out and secure your dope.  Then, come home and list the exact number of bags that you actually have in your possession.  When an order is placed, package it for shipment, go to the post office and ship the product, then come home and update the order status to "in transit."  When the number of bags in your possession have been ordered, then you are done until you get more dope.  If you have to wait until orders arrive and BTC's are placed into your account and you exchange them for cash and use that cash to buy more dope, then that is what you have to do.  There is no other way to do business on silk road.  Yes, you have a monopoly, and every monopoly in a free market system is of very low quality.  You are of very low quality (and I'm not talking about your dope).  The fact that you are the only one selling this stuff right now doesn't change that.  A decent human being tries to be the best that he or she can be, though you seem to be content with being the only option.  Showing patience and deference to your fuckups shouldn't be a prerequisite for you actually keeping your word to somebody.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 25, 2011, 07:38 am
Why do i think Italian Pilot and Kezenaren  are the same scummer?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 25, 2011, 11:06 am
Why do i think Italian Pilot and Kezenaren  are the same scummer?

because H addicts who try to deal H on silk road (PROVEN FACT) -

all act the same, and it's strongly possible they are. they cannot manage liquid assets, they lie, and they fuck

people over when they're high. Arrogance and ignorance come hand in hand, and these two have the same pair of

hands LOL

I say fuck em both, and fuck H in general until we see something reliable.

All future vendors should be approached with caution - this shit has been tiring for everybody.


b
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mseller on August 25, 2011, 12:34 pm
yes btc, you have a point.
I understand many problems with vending H on line.
I have seen many f2f dealers who have connection what work only a month or so, then is gone. That is why small dealer with unsecure source can not vend on SR.
When he receive 30g, that is gone in 1 day on street..after he go to his source for another batch, and after short period - that is gone too. Then on 3.rd, source is empty with excuses.
And game is over. That kind of dealing can be done F2F and NOT on SR.
You all should consider and another fact, why to vend H on SR? It is a lot easier to do it with close circle of friends and that is enough for him.
Vendor who has few secure source connections already have local customers and they have no interest dealing it on SR.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 25, 2011, 01:14 pm
You all should consider and another fact, why to vend H on SR? It is a lot easier to do it with close circle of friends and that is enough for him.
Vendor who has few secure source connections already have local customers and they have no interest dealing it on SR.
'

+1

excellent point. everyone read his post

b
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: gengted on August 25, 2011, 04:45 pm
IP has always responded and been cool with me. If you all chose to keep your money in escrow with him those are your choices. I know this isn't  concept most people like to hear, but take  little ownership for your own part.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 25, 2011, 04:53 pm
IP has always responded and been cool with me. If you all chose to keep your money in escrow with him those are your choices. I know this isn't  concept most people like to hear, but take  little ownership for your own part.

keeping money in escrow does not entail waiting 1 week plus for something to even move.

the concept of waiting and being bullshitted is what we are experiencing, not escrow.

the only ownership a buyer should ever have to take is his/her safety, and feedback.

your argument is invalid.

b
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: gengted on August 25, 2011, 06:45 pm
Dude, we are trying to buy heroin over the internet. What do you expect? Amazon or Ebay like service? Take responsibility for trying to buy fucking dope by mail order internet fucking service! Twat!. You're the biggest troll on this forum and you have absolutely no backbone. The way you flip flop back and forth is disgusting. One minute you have IPs cock shoved a foot down your throat the next your accusing him of all sorts of things. We are on the cutting edge of this new technology. Shit is going to happen. Chill the fuck out.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 25, 2011, 06:59 pm
I don't think ItalianPilot and Keezy are the same person, but I think they both have shown behavior somewhat typical of junkies. The reason I'm convinced they're different people is keasy sells black tar heroin (only available in the west / southern states) and IP sells powder (which is common on the east coast / midwest).

I'm a little irritated by the whole experience, but whatever. Don't give IP too hard of a time, he's learning from his mistakes and hopefully he'll be offering much faster shipping in the future. I would definitely try him again, once I'm sure this kinda thing isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 25, 2011, 07:05 pm
Dude, we are trying to buy heroin over the internet. What do you expect? Amazon or Ebay like service? Take responsibility for trying to buy fucking dope by mail order internet fucking service! Twat!. You're the biggest troll on this forum and you have absolutely no backbone. The way you flip flop back and forth is disgusting. One minute you have IPs cock shoved a foot down your throat the next your accusing him of all sorts of things. We are on the cutting edge of this new technology. Shit is going to happen. Chill the fuck out.

u mad

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: gengted on August 25, 2011, 07:51 pm
No, sick of your spineless whining. That's the last thing I'm going to say about this. Sorry to everyone else if I offended you.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 26, 2011, 02:23 am
Drop the trolling...be civil.
The bigger man walks away and you can see the smile on his face for knowing he is the bigger man.



:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Alchemy807 on August 26, 2011, 03:26 am
my order was changed to "in transit" today......if that means anything...will be looking for it on saturday.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 26, 2011, 09:20 pm
damn i should start vending H


+1 moveitnice

make it right, yo.

so many people's dreams would be honored here, the feedback will be lookin' like love letters lool

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: certainlynotme on August 27, 2011, 04:38 pm
Half of me thinks SR should get into the serialized television business, beginning with the epic sagas of Keasy and IP. The more reasonable half wishes there was a good way to summarize these threads for folks just getting caught up, then drive a spike through their chest, fill 'em full of silver bullets, and burn 'em, pausing only to cast salt over the surrounding terrain as we head back to the Opiates section to pick up some Opana. Perhaps in a future iteration of the feedback system.

A few life lessons for folks who don't want to read all 1500 pages of the most popular soap operas on TOR:

- H sellers can be unreliable. For those new to the game, this is not true only of mail-order sellers.
- Evidence-free accusations make people mad.
- Diversity of sources and substances is a positive thing for the mental health or yourself and others.
- There's (still) a great business opportunity available to a reliable, professional vendor of non-pharmaceutical opiates

At this point even Robert Jordan thinks we should move it along. But the question keeping us all in suspense, returning breathlessly for our daily story update: Can people change? Do things get better, or are we cursed to a manichean future full of friendly, fast pharmaceutical vendors and unreliable, often slow, occasionally argumentative non-pharmaceutical vendors?

Stay tuned for the next tedious, frustrating update from "Silk Road Forums: The Sticky Posts".
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: jamesbrown on August 27, 2011, 10:22 pm
I will have a small amount of heroin stamps from New Jersey available later this week. I will be selling them through the SR escrow system and every order will be shipped out within 24 hours of payment. I will update this thread when I have them listed and ready to ship, should be on Wednesday/Thursday. If all goes well I will continue to sell them in the future.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: manlyman on August 27, 2011, 10:38 pm
I think it's awesome that you're selling heroin on here dude, but don't post about it/make updates in ItalianPilot's thread. Make your own thread for that.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 28, 2011, 10:18 am
I haven't been on here in the forums in a while. Trying to read from where I left off and started getting sick from reading the negative posts so I stopped. The thing that scares me is that each BTC carries a history with it. I did however, figure out a way to clean the money. That's why I was delayed.

I have shipped out all but 2 or 3 orders. I will expect new feedback early next week. I hooked up most orders. For those that weren't hooked up, it was because it was more important to take care of everyone than give double to one and none to another. If I didn't hook you up....and your package arrived a little late, I will give a partial refund. Jut ask!

As I promised, from now on my product is in stock and ready for immediate shipment. The very few orders that haven't been fulfilled, I will take care on Monday.

To answer some of the negativity.... Guys, I dont mean to be  a repeat of some prior people fucking you guys. I wont ever steal a thing from anyone.. I had alot to figure out. Believe me, this isn't as easy as making a listing on Ebay man. One has to be real careful. You know how many times I was asked to accept cash, or meet in person? Fucking alot. Makes me think they are all pigs, which makes me that much more careful. Yeah, I took some extra time in shipping, I know I fibbed a bit at times, but that's because I never wanted to disappoint. I hated the fact I put myself in a mess because I jumped the gun and sold sooner than I was ready to.

I'm trying to do the right thing by hooking everyone up with extras and willing to give partial refunds. I hope that counts for something. I notice some folks go a long way to defend me. I am truly honored by that and can't thank you guys enough. Believe it or not, it gives me motivation and drive knowing that there are folks still counting on me to come through. I wont let anyone down in the end.

I will get my shipping cleared up on Monday, including the new sales. Read my ad for updates on my practices. Feel free to comment via PM.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 28, 2011, 12:38 pm
Today I am sampling some white H. It's supposed to be real good. I will post my findings. Thank you for all your orders and offers to release funds early including the customer offering to release funds upon receipt of tracking number.  It is not necessary to do this but I do appreciate it under the circumstances where the BTC market price is so highly volatile and down significantly. You guys think it will be back at 11 bucks soon?   
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on August 28, 2011, 05:01 pm
IP -

Can't tell you about BTC values - if I knew anything about the future price of any commodity I wouldn't have to work.

You probably should set prices in dollars - whatever you need, let the BTC price float, and use the SR hedge to make sure you get what you need out of the transaction.

ecm
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 28, 2011, 05:53 pm
IP -

Can't tell you about BTC values - if I knew anything about the future price of any commodity I wouldn't have to work.

You probably should set prices in dollars - whatever you need, let the BTC price float, and use the SR hedge to make sure you get what you need out of the transaction.

ecm

True. I guess you can't have it both ways. It does look like it's recovering so I lowered my price back down. I think early next week it'll recover. Anyway's as far as the H sales, if I messaged you the confirmation #, your order was shipped on Friday morning. If not, it'll be shipped on Monday (only 3 orders). All of my subutex shipments were sent.

A I have promise the community, all orders will be shipped within 48 hours as I have product in stock..I am in line for a lot of feed-backs next week.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: un1v4c222 on August 28, 2011, 11:34 pm

 Yeah, I took some extra time in shipping, I know I fibbed a bit at times, but that's because I never wanted to disappoint. I hated the fact I put myself in a mess because I jumped the gun and sold sooner than I was ready to.


As one who leveled negative criticisms here,  I think you're showing some good self-knowledge about what the problems were.   I guess that's the first step in rehabilitating your reputation, which I think may be possible over time.
 Personally, I'd rather be disappointed than misinformed.  Please understand that receiving shipments is a risky part of the formula, so there's  anxiety about the timing,delays etc.  Good luck!   
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 29, 2011, 11:52 am
To everyone that received a tracking# from IP, are you guys getting the "can not locate, number may not be in our system yet" message? I know that with delivery confirmation, sometimes it shows the arrival and departure scans but its only supposed to show the delivery. If anyone is seeing the activity of their package, please let me know...REMINDER! DO NOT CHECK WHILE TOR IS ENABLED!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: oinkfat on August 30, 2011, 12:52 am
I ordered H 11 days ago, apparently it was shipped mid last week.  Not trying to talk shit or anything, but this has been a really long time for the shipping company to take.

Still trying to remain positive, just hope I didn't get burned. 

Too bad pharmville doesn't have H :P
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 30, 2011, 03:25 am
If only Pharmville™ had H....that would fuckin kick ass! We love u Pharmville™!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: towelie on August 30, 2011, 04:40 am
I would really love to see this guy get his shit together and then see plenty of quality feedback. That is if everyone can make it back to their computers.
Gone the tar route but always wanted to try the real deal.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 30, 2011, 05:48 am
I would really love to see this guy get his shit together and then see plenty of quality feedback. That is if everyone can make it back to their computers.
Gone the tar route but always wanted to try the real deal.

I will. I'm managing to get the vast majority of orders taken care of, but there are very few still waiting. I need to get it to 100%, all the time. I work almost 12 hours a day which don't help either. Looks like some deliveries are starting to happen, got my next feedback today and guess what, the BTC aren't in my account from a transaction that's obviously been settled. Probably a delay. I messaged SR, he always helps me out a lot. SR is very conversational with me which I like as well. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on August 30, 2011, 05:54 am
I ordered H 11 days ago, apparently it was shipped mid last week.  Not trying to talk shit or anything, but this has been a really long time for the shipping company to take.

Still trying to remain positive, just hope I didn't get burned. 

Too bad pharmville doesn't have H :P

oinkfat, you placed several orders with me. i shipped half of them to you. you should be getting the ones i shipped any day. rest went out today. as a note to everyone, if i haven't shipped and you would like a refund, just ask. oinkfat you have been real patient
 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 30, 2011, 11:41 am
I ordered H 11 days ago, apparently it was shipped mid last week.  Not trying to talk shit or anything, but this has been a really long time for the shipping company to take.

No, please talk shit.  Everyone needs to stop giving him a tugjob everytime he posts on the forum.  He's only posting on here to try to ease the tension because he isn't living up to his side of the deal.  This has been getting out of hand.  Placed my order on the 17th(!!) and have yet to get a single real message from IP besides one saying his laptop charger died and he couldn't decrypt my messages.  The messages I did receive from him were mass-messages sent out to everyone last week, when yours and probably all of ours were marked "in transit."

I am really starting to question the validity of some of the forum user accounts on here claiming that they received their orders, or that they got confirmation numbers.  The feedback is likely bogus as well.  I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the positive reports are real, but let's be honest:  he's been flaking out on us since day one, and he needs to establish a reputation in order to do business on here.  Why, again, would he not post fake feedback on his account?

IP, maybe you had the intention of legitimately selling H on here, but it's obvious that for one reason or another, it's not happening.  Oh, I know, you had problems converting the BTC into cash, you had this problem, you had that problem.  Guess what?  I don't care anymore.  Your subutex seemed to sell and get delivered quickly (unless those feedbacks were fake as well.)  Got an excuse, sorry - explanation for that as well?

Confirmation number or GTFO.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 30, 2011, 12:09 pm
I ordered H 11 days ago, apparently it was shipped mid last week.  Not trying to talk shit or anything, but this has been a really long time for the shipping company to take.

No, please talk shit.  Everyone needs to stop giving him a tugjob everytime he posts on the forum.  He's only posting on here to try to ease the tension because he isn't living up to his side of the deal.  This has been getting out of hand.  Placed my order on the 17th(!!) and have yet to get a single real message from IP besides one saying his laptop charger died and he couldn't decrypt my messages.  The messages I did receive from him were mass-messages sent out to everyone last week, when yours and probably all of ours were marked "in transit."

I am really starting to question the validity of some of the forum user accounts on here claiming that they received their orders, or that they got confirmation numbers.  The feedback is likely bogus as well.  I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the positive reports are real, but let's be honest:  he's been flaking out on us since day one, and he needs to establish a reputation in order to do business on here.  Why, again, would he not post fake feedback on his account?

IP, maybe you had the intention of legitimately selling H on here, but it's obvious that for one reason or another, it's not happening.  Oh, I know, you had problems converting the BTC into cash, you had this problem, you had that problem.  Guess what?  I don't care anymore.  Your subutex seemed to sell and get delivered quickly (unless those feedbacks were fake as well.)  Got an excuse, sorry - explanation for that as well?

Confirmation number or GTFO.

+1

Bitch slapped.

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Antacid on August 30, 2011, 12:44 pm
push
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 30, 2011, 03:30 pm
now - lets see who's actually gotten H.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2607.0

thanks to nomad for this.

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: towelie on August 30, 2011, 05:53 pm
I don't know.  Guy says he works 12 hours a day AND does $200 of dirt daily.  What is he, a mattress tester?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on August 30, 2011, 05:55 pm
I don't know.  Guy says he works 12 hours a day AND does $200 of dirt daily.  What is he, a mattress tester?

lmaooooo

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 30, 2011, 06:59 pm
still waiting...mailed out last Thursday bu the tracking # keeps saying its invalid or not in the system yet:( but its only delivery confirmation so who knows...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 30, 2011, 07:21 pm
still waiting...mailed out last Thursday bu the tracking # keeps saying its invalid or not in the system yet:( but its only delivery confirmation so who knows...
It means it hasn't been mailed yet if you do a search and it doesn't have a second result that says accepted.

:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on August 30, 2011, 10:20 pm
still waiting...mailed out last Thursday bu the tracking # keeps saying its invalid or not in the system yet:( but its only delivery confirmation so who knows...
It means it hasn't been mailed yet if you do a search and it doesn't have a second result that says accepted.

:D
nomad bloodbath

That's fucking sad/dissapointing, but since you have escrow I presume you can get partial refund.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 30, 2011, 10:54 pm
okay... I'm going to edit my post. maybe I am being a little quick to judge. We will see by thursday, but I think at least SOMEONE would have recieved by now.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 31, 2011, 12:04 am
im the one that released funds early:( but now i have the ability to write whatever i want on his profile page and it only cost me 16BTCs..to be fair, im not labeling him a scammer until Thursday, if nothing comes by then, ill do what needs to be done...atleast i got some 8mg dillies on the way...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 31, 2011, 12:15 am
and a methadone clinic around the corner :)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Antacid on August 31, 2011, 08:25 am
Am i Blind ?

Where are his H-Listings ?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 31, 2011, 10:20 am
Am i Blind ?

Where are his H-Listings ?
It's been suggested to him to take down any listings he can't fill.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 31, 2011, 10:29 am
holy fucking shit! i checked my tracking# and its going to be delivered today! ill update when its in hand in running through my system...no methadone for me today:)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 31, 2011, 11:15 am
holy fucking shit! i checked my tracking# and its going to be delivered today! ill update when its in hand in running through my system...no methadone for me today:)

Please do.  Maybe I've been a bit harsh, but I for one am sick and tired of the wait, the excuses, and the lies.  Anyone else get a confirmation number?  Still none here. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 31, 2011, 12:48 pm
i certainly will....i hate waiting just as much as everyone else...i dont want to give up IP's location but his area was affected by that hurricane we had at the end of last week. i know usps operations were shut down in that area for a few days, which mite explain the late package(s)....
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on August 31, 2011, 02:21 pm
I am waiting too and will update all if or if not.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 31, 2011, 03:53 pm
holy fucking shit! i checked my tracking# and its going to be delivered today! ill update when its in hand in running through my system...no methadone for me today:)

No shit?
I never recieved a tracking #. Did you ask for one?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 31, 2011, 04:25 pm
yea i asked this time but he sent me one last time too...he actually sent me two this time...one is mine n the other is not...but its out for mutha  fuckin delivery! !!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 31, 2011, 05:54 pm
I got my package! Ordered 7 bags and got 9! Just did one and its fucking awesome! Thanks IP i almost started to doubt you but I wasn't qute there yet, I had faith and its here! I will continue to order !
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on August 31, 2011, 06:01 pm
I got my package! Ordered 7 bags and got 9! Just did one and its fucking awesome! Thanks IP i almost started to doubt you but I wasn't qute there yet, I had faith and its here! I will continue to order !
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Okay (said with doubtful inflection). I'm going to go check my box. Something still tells me i'll be disapointed again today.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on August 31, 2011, 06:28 pm
Okay (said with doubtful inflection). I'm going to go check my box. Something still tells me i'll be disapointed again today.

Yeah, me too. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on August 31, 2011, 06:58 pm
just did 1 bag and the quality is great...instant rush...oh n now i get the sleep walking thing...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: barbasolshavingcreamcan on August 31, 2011, 07:35 pm
There were a few delays with my order, but it was my decision to keep the order open and not get a refund (which IP continually reminded me was an option, throughout our discussion.) Today it finally came and IP more than hooked me up because of the delay. I ordered three bags and he shipped five, which is great considering the amount the BTC has dropped since placing my order.

I was patient (when I wasn't thinking the order was shipped and lost/intercepted, which gives me great anxiety) because I saw that IP already came through with people (based on things like seemingly realistic people here on the forums speaking of successful orders), I never released my funds out of the escrow and I was in no rush.

Based on the quality of product and the fact that he knows the shipping game now, I think IP has a lot of potential to become a very successful dealer here on the most kick ass corner of the internet.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mr.wizard on August 31, 2011, 10:50 pm
holy fucking shit! i checked my tracking# and its going to be delivered today! ill update when its in hand in running through my system...no methadone for me today:)

No shit?
I never recieved a tracking #. Did you ask for one?

I didn't get a tracking # either.  He sent me the group PMs and put the status ti "in transit" last week.  Still no sign
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: barbasolshavingcreamcan on September 01, 2011, 12:25 am
holy fucking shit! i checked my tracking# and its going to be delivered today! ill update when its in hand in running through my system...no methadone for me today:)

No shit?
I never recieved a tracking #. Did you ask for one?

got mine when I PM'd him and asked him to confirm he had shipped when he told me he would.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 01, 2011, 03:22 am
here's the update, as promised.

IP came through - yes, there were delays and it was marked in transit before it was but he delivered with a 2 bag bonus. quality product.

there is potential here if we can just speed up the clock.

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: rx4200 on September 01, 2011, 03:52 am
so far 2 successful transactions from IP, quality has been A+ both times, good dope:) it takes a minute to get but worth the wait and had that hurricane not come through, i believe it would have arrived on sat or mon...that issue should now be resolved because he has product  on deck. if you ordered from IP, i believe you will get your product. he has nothing to gain by holding your BTCs in escrow, you've all been this patient because you didnt hit cancel, a few more days should turn up more packages and positive feedback. he also most likely sent you 2 extra bags, which is pretty cool way to sorry about the wait.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: oinkfat on September 01, 2011, 05:42 am
Its been 13 days since I ordered the H, he said it'd be delivered Today.  I DID receive the subutex which is great, but still no H.  Bummer

As I said, the subutex DID arrive today but the H was shipped before the subutex.  Strange
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 01, 2011, 07:09 am
How many mg is 1 of his bag? At least there is 1 legit H vendor here.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: anton on September 01, 2011, 10:45 am
i know italianpilot is busy but when you get a chance can you cancel the order for antonanton.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 01, 2011, 12:54 pm
Its been 13 days since I ordered the H, he said it'd be delivered Today.  I DID receive the subutex which is great, but still no H.  Bummer
As I said, the subutex DID arrive today but the H was shipped before the subutex.  Strange

not strange, how H users do biz...you're either waiting too long or you've been lied to about when things have been mailed.

subutex coming before H is because at the time there was no H, or it was in someone's arm, and that's what was sent out. I can put my bottom bitcoin on it.

i have taken *extra* precaution of when / when not to click the "Confirm" button when sending things to people. I won't click it until I've returned home

from actually doing so. It boils down to one automated instinct though - HONESTY


ps.

I have no beef with IP, although i approached his presence here a bit rashly....in fact I placed an order with him. we were very civil over PM. he's not a bad dude. I just cannot wait two weeks for something like that, but at the same time I commend him for having the nuts to come on here, and get this going. hopefully if we can resolve the time issue, as someone else stated, we could have a very good situation here.

He was honest and gave the option to cancel if we wanted to. Remember that. A scammer would bounce with your coins and log out forever.

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on September 01, 2011, 01:47 pm
+1, and I have to say that I was being a bit over-the-top the other day as well.  I really shouldn't expect anywhere near the reliability of other sellers when ordering H.  It does annoy me, though, that in the time that I've been waiting for a measly bag, I've received four separate pharmaceutical orders from another seller.  Good thing I don't have a major habit, I suppose. 

IP, hope you get it all sorted out and end up selling long-term.  Still hoping my order shows within the next day or so.  Feedback will be given accordingly. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: jamesbrown on September 01, 2011, 07:04 pm
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7916
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 01, 2011, 08:04 pm
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7916

get that PGP up and we'll be talkin  ;)

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 01, 2011, 11:20 pm
Guess what was in my box today!

Disapointment. A whole lot of disapointment.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on September 01, 2011, 11:31 pm
Guess what was in my box today!

Disapointment. A whole lot of disapointment.

You don't say?  Mine too!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: anton on September 02, 2011, 07:52 am
First this message :
From: italianpilot(94)
4 days ago
your order
please remit your address again. thanks! I am shipping promptly tomorrow morning. I will be issuing a partial refund after you finalize order to try and make it right for being late. If you would like me to cancel order out-right, that's Ok too, I will immediately refund you. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please let me know what you would like me to do, thanks!

IP

Then after asking for a full refund:

From: italianpilot(94)
9 hours ago
re: Refund please
done. when i make my listing again, I will promise to ship right away. I am giving you the bag for free since I shipped it already. Let me know when you receive it.

The funds are still stuck in escrow. how could you ship with no address?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 02, 2011, 10:40 am
First this message :
From: italianpilot(94)
4 days ago
your order
please remit your address again. thanks! I am shipping promptly tomorrow morning. I will be issuing a partial refund after you finalize order to try and make it right for being late. If you would like me to cancel order out-right, that's Ok too, I will immediately refund you. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please let me know what you would like me to do, thanks!

IP

Then after asking for a full refund:

From: italianpilot(94)
9 hours ago
re: Refund please
done. when i make my listing again, I will promise to ship right away. I am giving you the bag for free since I shipped it already. Let me know when you receive it.

The funds are still stuck in escrow. how could you ship with no address?

<facepalm>

L

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 02, 2011, 01:39 pm
First this message :
From: italianpilot(94)
4 days ago
your order
please remit your address again. thanks! I am shipping promptly tomorrow morning. I will be issuing a partial refund after you finalize order to try and make it right for being late. If you would like me to cancel order out-right, that's Ok too, I will immediately refund you. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please let me know what you would like me to do, thanks!

IP

Then after asking for a full refund:

From: italianpilot(94)
9 hours ago
re: Refund please
done. when i make my listing again, I will promise to ship right away. I am giving you the bag for free since I shipped it already. Let me know when you receive it.

The funds are still stuck in escrow. how could you ship with no address?

Funds were credited back to you. Sometimes it takes a while. I did find the revised address you gave me. "Joan" That should ring a bell for you anton. Like I said , I shipped anyway. Hopefully when you receive it, you'll place another order with me that wont end up being refunded. Enjoy it.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 02, 2011, 01:48 pm
still waiting...mailed out last Thursday bu the tracking # keeps saying its invalid or not in the system yet:( but its only delivery confirmation so who knows...
It means it hasn't been mailed yet if you do a search and it doesn't have a second result that says accepted.

:D
nomad bloodbath

Please make sure to give accurate information to my customers. This will avoid unnecessary anxiety. If I give tracking numbers, they are legit. The truth about USPS and their tracking results is you just don't know what will happen. Delivery confirmation is meant to just confirm "after delivery". Sometimes you will get notice of not only the package being accepted, but also "in transit" stops along the way, like what happened to my last shipments. Sometimes you will get notice that they "haven't received any information regarding that number", and you will not get a bit of information until either the day of delivery, or after it's delivered.

You just cannot tell, apparently.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 02, 2011, 01:59 pm
Its been 13 days since I ordered the H, he said it'd be delivered Today.  I DID receive the subutex which is great, but still no H.  Bummer
As I said, the subutex DID arrive today but the H was shipped before the subutex.  Strange

not strange, how H users do biz...you're either waiting too long or you've been lied to about when things have been mailed.

subutex coming before H is because at the time there was no H, or it was in someone's arm, and that's what was sent out. I can put my bottom bitcoin on it.

i have taken *extra* precaution of when / when not to click the "Confirm" button when sending things to people. I won't click it until I've returned home

from actually doing so. It boils down to one automated instinct though - HONESTY


ps.

I have no beef with IP, although i approached his presence here a bit rashly....in fact I placed an order with him. we were very civil over PM. he's not a bad dude. I just cannot wait two weeks for something like that, but at the same time I commend him for having the nuts to come on here, and get this going. hopefully if we can resolve the time issue, as someone else stated, we could have a very good situation here.

He was honest and gave the option to cancel if we wanted to. Remember that. A scammer would bounce with your coins and log out forever.

L75

This must have been a classic case of lost mail, the only one I have had so far. I re-shipped product anyways to try and earn a better feedback rating. I am working on the time issue, I really am. Although I am getting better, I still have much room for improvement. This time around, not only was I late, but I got someone else's order mixed up and sent Bupe for an H order(not the one in quotes above), and one other thing which I cant mention here. I get blasted with messages, and with Tor being so slow, it's really time consuming to keep up.

I have invested deeply with good product. And plan to do better next time around.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 02, 2011, 03:33 pm
If Tor is slow, always use the 'New Identity' option.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 02, 2011, 03:50 pm
Uhhh... "Joan" rings a bell to ME. Unless there has been some amazing coincidence. Is this why I haven't received my order?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on September 02, 2011, 04:06 pm
Yeah, curious about my order as well.  Did I get confused with someone who didn't place an order?   :-\ 

/sarcasm
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 02, 2011, 04:31 pm
If you only have 1 order lost in the mail IP then where is mine.  You said you sent it out over 17 days ago.
Comon dude  what the Fu*&.  I think Ive been patient enough and haven t said a word about it until now.

It didnt come today either and Im really F%^&ing PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

How many fucking days do i have to fucking wait?  God fucking dammit I dont want TO HEAR ANYMORE FUCKING LIES EITHER.  AND ANSWER YOUR FUCKING PMS to which I NEVER GOT A FUCKING RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on September 02, 2011, 04:49 pm
Comon dude  what the Fu*&.  I think Ive been patient enough and haven t said a word about it until now.

It didnt come today either and Im really F%^&ing PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

How many fucking days do i have to fucking wait?  God fucking dammit I dont want TO HEAR ANYMORE FUCKING LIES EITHER.  AND ANSWER YOUR FUCKING PMS to which I NEVER GOT A FUCKING RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed, word for word.  What gives, and why don't you answer your PMs?  Yeah, Tor is slow.  Doesn't excuse your total lack of communication.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 02, 2011, 04:55 pm
The plot thickens
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 02, 2011, 05:12 pm
If you only have 1 order lost in the mail IP then where is mine.  You said you sent it out over 17 days ago.
Comon dude  what the Fu*&.  I think Ive been patient enough and haven t said a word about it until now.

It didnt come today either and Im really F%^&ing PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

How many fucking days do i have to fucking wait?  God fucking dammit I dont want TO HEAR ANYMORE FUCKING LIES EITHER.  AND ANSWER YOUR FUCKING PMS to which I NEVER GOT A FUCKING RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u mad, and have every right to be.

ItalianPilot, get your shit together. I canceled an order from you because of this same reason. I don't wait like an asshole.

Don't make other people wait like assholes either. it's assholish.


L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 02, 2011, 05:29 pm
Ive kept my mouth shut for a long time but I just cant help myself as I'm just at my wits end with you Dude!
I m quite easy going and don't like making life difficult for others.   I am also a firm believer in Karma.  What goes around does come around  and I know this to be one of the true facts of life.  But it seems here your stuck in some sort of horrible lying evil vortex you cant get yourself out of.  Why cause so much trouble for yourself.  You do know this is all your doing.  People are mad because of your actions and NOTHING ELSE. Why not just take care of your responsibilities and enjoy your life. You could have a huge business going making tons of money for your habit if you did things right.  Its almost like your trying to fuck yourself over.  Its really easy to stick something in an envelope and give it to the Post office And there is little to no risk to you doing this if you pay cash.  Bitcoin should have nothing to do with making your deliveries .  They are 2 completely different things.  You have a way of supporting your habit while making extra money as well.  How many addicts can say that.  I know a lot of people that would give there left nut to live where you live .  You have or had a real chance at making an enormous amount of money.  Why are you trying so hard to fuck it all up? 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mseller on September 02, 2011, 05:41 pm
+1

I know how people are sensitive to lie. You have nothing from it - it will ruin your reputation. Is so easy to say a lie and then you are stuck.
Start small what you can send..10..20 bags, does not matter, but send it! Then you will see how will accumulate and you are on right track.
Many buyers does not know how things can be hard for vendors. But, as time goes by, we all adapt, and then is way easier. I even started to think on english.
IP, I wish you that you sort things out. Obtain goodies, list it with exact amount what you can deliver and that is it. Meanwhile, work on btc exchange and obtaining new batch.
All the best.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 02, 2011, 05:54 pm
If you only have 1 order lost in the mail IP then where is mine.  You said you sent it out over 17 days ago.
Comon dude  what the Fu*&.  I think Ive been patient enough and haven t said a word about it until now.

It didnt come today either and Im really F%^&ing PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

How many fucking days do i have to fucking wait?  God fucking dammit I dont want TO HEAR ANYMORE FUCKING LIES EITHER.  AND ANSWER YOUR FUCKING PMS to which I NEVER GOT A FUCKING RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I answer almost all pm's i get. Like I put in my ad, " I will answer all ad's at night" Sometimes I get 85 new messages. If I read a message and don't respond to it right away, it gets marked as read and I accidentally missed it. I am doing the best I could. Anyone who I haven't notified that their shit was shipped, just ask for a refund and I will honor it promptly. It's funny how in all the messages I get, no one ever has an attitude and they are always polite and understanding. I have customers volunteering to release funds early, and have done so on their own. I would never ask someone to do that.

I am definitely getting better, like I said. But shipping on time for the majority and late with the others isn't acceptable so I will try and improve when my listing goes back up. I took it down to catch up and be fair for the people who have ordered. By the way, no offense taken methman.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 02, 2011, 06:19 pm
+1

I know how people are sensitive to lie. You have nothing from it - it will ruin your reputation. Is so easy to say a lie and then you are stuck.
Start small what you can send..10..20 bags, does not matter, but send it! Then you will see how will accumulate and you are on right track.
Many buyers does not know how things can be hard for vendors. But, as time goes by, we all adapt, and then is way easier. I even started to think on english.
IP, I wish you that you sort things out. Obtain goodies, list it with exact amount what you can deliver and that is it. Meanwhile, work on btc exchange and obtaining new batch.
All the best.

Thanks for your kind words. I just re-upped with more stuff. I made the mistake and sold way too much, now I get about 60 messages a day from people who i am late with and new curious buyers as well. takes alot of time and look how mad some get if i miss a message. i have feedback talking about how well i communicate. i would think it is obvious if i dont respond its because i misse it.... accidentally. it's almost as if i am getting a life lesson on social skills being on here. the only thing i have done wrong is become late with shipping.

aren't there worse people who actually try and screw people over? the way some behave in here, it's like i am being labeled a scammer.. but you know what? it is just the minority. i guess thats why i will always have a few sour feedbacks. as long as the vast majority are good, and i am shipping KIcK ASS product, i think most will support me and stick with me as I become a better vendor.

I figured giving extras and offering partial refunds was a good start. I guess that's not enough. My apologies
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 02, 2011, 07:02 pm
IP - I don't know why people have to be so rude. When I find a vendor not responsive I think about waiting for resolution and getting my money back. I don't like having my money tied up that long but that's just the nature of the business.

You came through, you included extras, and you've generally been pretty communicative. I appreciate it. I'm not expecting Amazon-style customer service here so you pretty well meet my expectations. I order and you deliver, albeit a bit slow for reasons that you acknowledge and are saying you're working to fix.

Why people have to flame so harshly is beyond me. You're building a core of people that appreciate your effort. I would like you to be in the 100% club though so keep trying to figure out what has happened to those you've missed.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 02, 2011, 08:05 pm
IP - I don't know why people have to be so rude. When I find a vendor not responsive I think about waiting for resolution and getting my money back. I don't like having my money tied up that long but that's just the nature of the business.

You came through, you included extras, and you've generally been pretty communicative. I appreciate it. I'm not expecting Amazon-style customer service here so you pretty well meet my expectations. I order and you deliver, albeit a bit slow for reasons that you acknowledge and are saying you're working to fix.

Why people have to flame so harshly is beyond me. You're building a core of people that appreciate your effort. I would like you to be in the 100% club though so keep trying to figure out what has happened to those you've missed.

Thanks dude. I guess I deserve it to some degree but now that I am more experienced, I don't take it too personal and get too emotional. In the beginning I got all worked up over the shit said in here, and for what? For nothing. Now what I do is refund the ones that get real angry with me. It's funny how most are real nice over PM, but show a completely different side on here. Human nature, I guess.

By the way, methman, sorry it didn't work out. Your order was from way back and I just checked and saw it never got fulfilled. I see your pretty upset and asked for your money back, so I just did it. You should have your dough back now.

All of my recent orders are getting notification from SR today that their order is now marked as shipped, locking funds in escrow.  Good news, you can rely on that information and expect your order in a few days.

I am re-posting my ad... read it. I am offering shipping within 48 hours or it's free. You can see that I don't mind shipping extras, so you can believe it I will give it out for free if I fail.

Electriccrazyman, I think you are the first person to mention the good things I have done to mitigate the stress with the delay I have caused. Thanks for backing me up.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 02, 2011, 08:09 pm
So  you ask why I had to say those things on the bulletin board in your last PM.  I answered you with a PM and I will answer you here as well.  I originally ordered from you 2 or 3 days after you joined the site.  I ordered quite a few at the time.  I waited about a month because you confirmed shipping and nothing came.  You apologized and said you would mail me a freebie for the trouble which you never did.  After you made this apology and returned my money I said well okay I will give him another chance and ordered a few again.  They stayed in processing for about a week and a half and I finally canceled MOST of them but left 1 to see if you'd deliver.  Its now been over a month since I last ordered from you with no results and now  your pissed at me for being upset and  writing about it on the BB.   You promised me 2 freebies and have had my money tied up for over 18 days and not once have I said anything rude and your mad at me?  Why is it that all the other sellers on here have no problem getting stuff out?  No other seller even the number 1 guys ever complain about the amount of messages of items they have to mail out ?  Your excuses are nothing but that.  Excuses are for children or people who fuck up.  You seem to inflicting all this upon yourself but are getting mad at the people who put faith in you to provide a product in a timely manor.  I don't think 2 months is timely do you?  I see you canceled my order that was already out for shipping just now.  Does that mean you didnt send it in the first place?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 02, 2011, 08:30 pm
So let me get this straight .....Ive been waiting for this last ORDER close to a month for something you said you mailed out several times but FUCKING didnt and that happens to be the second FUCKING TIME you FUCKING LIED TO ME ABOUT DELIVERY.... AND YOUR FUCKING SORRY!!!! AND You cant believe that people are that upset with you?  You DONT HAVE your shit straight and  If you do you really are a scammer. I feel bad for all those people kissing your ass because youll probably do the same to them.  And then you wonder why people talk shit about you on here?   Dude is your head on straight?  ARE YOU THAT FUCKING HIGH? IS YOUR SHIT THAT FUCKIG GOOD to MAKE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID?  Ive had an order with you for 2 months with nothing but bullshit lies and leading me on and I should just let it FUCKING GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  THANK god there are other H vendors now and I could be done with you.  Remember KARMAs a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 02, 2011, 08:40 pm
wow.

that is fucking piss poor.

methadoneman, u mad, but again i'm with you 100%

this shit's unacceptable

L
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mr.wizard on September 02, 2011, 08:46 pm
First this message :
From: italianpilot(94)
4 days ago
your order
please remit your address again. thanks! I am shipping promptly tomorrow morning. I will be issuing a partial refund after you finalize order to try and make it right for being late. If you would like me to cancel order out-right, that's Ok too, I will immediately refund you. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please let me know what you would like me to do, thanks!

IP

Then after asking for a full refund:

From: italianpilot(94)
9 hours ago
re: Refund please
done. when i make my listing again, I will promise to ship right away. I am giving you the bag for free since I shipped it already. Let me know when you receive it.

The funds are still stuck in escrow. how could you ship with no address?

At least some people are getting responses to PMs.  I sent IP a pm and he has yet to respond.  Ordered on the 13th, was put "in transit" on the 25th.  Still no sign.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 02, 2011, 08:57 pm
Your right Im mad.  I was nothing but polite and understanding and look at where it got me with this prick.  He basically said fuck you to me more than once. I will let his money sit HERE FOR A FUCKING MONTH WHIle the ASSHOLE that ordered it is sitting on his hands waiting  .  Is he really fucking serious with the excuses?  IP I will now go out of my way to tell any one who will listen about how you fucked me more than twice and lied to me more than 4 times and for what dude?  WHAT An ASSHOLE YOU ARE.  Are YOU 15 YEARS OLD DUDE?  DO you have trouble reading and writing as well as arithmetic.  We all know about your troubles with math and Bitcoin.  Excuse ARE FOR CHILDREN Not Sellers on this site.  Well no other sellers but YOU!!!!   HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT TO MAIL A FUCKING ENVELOPE?!!!!!!!!!!   
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 02, 2011, 10:55 pm
WOOO!

that's some fervent shit right there. and again methadoneman - i feel you.

this is what happens when junkies attempt dealing on silk road.

you get your bupe before, even though you ordered your bag of H first.

that's because your H is in the junkie's arm while he's fulfilling HIS needs

without a care in the world about yours.

in all honesty, this is the type of stuff that will bring your whole gig down ItalianPilot.

stop getting high off your own supply. it's strongly evident now.

Prepare for Emergency Landing. You know you done fucked up now, and there's no turning back.

With a few more H vendors coming up, hopefully we will never have to deal with this again.

this has been a PAINFUL thread to follow.


L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on September 02, 2011, 11:29 pm

I answer almost all pm's i get. Like I put in my ad, " I will answer all ad's at night" Sometimes I get 85 new messages. If I read a message and don't respond to it right away, it gets marked as read and I accidentally missed it. I am doing the best I could. Anyone who I haven't notified that their shit was shipped, just ask for a refund and I will honor it promptly. It's funny how in all the messages I get, no one ever has an attitude and they are always polite and understanding. I have customers volunteering to release funds early, and have done so on their own. I would never ask someone to do that.

I don't care if my messages aren't being responded to "right away."  I get it - you can't be tied to the computer 24/7.  Where I have a major fucking problem is with your inability or utter unwillingness to answer ANY of my PMs, and I see that other people here are in the same boat.  Cut the bullshit excuses already, man up, and quit lying, FFS.

Seriously, man, I'm not asking you to move fucking mountains here.  I'm asking for my order to be fulfilled as originally agreed upon, and to get an occasional answer when I have a question about it.  Not asking for a refund at the moment, just want what I paid for. 

Don't cry victim either, like you were being straight up and hooked up all these orders, boo-hoo.  You had to hook up the orders because you dropped the ball and wanted to maintain some semblance of a reputation.  Very cool that you did that.  However, I and others still haven't even gotten what we ORDERED, let alone any extras. 

So can I expect my order please with fucking sugar on top?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 02, 2011, 11:32 pm
The thing that bothers me is having an order marked as "in transit" and then not knowing what happened. Did it get confiscated? Am I now under LE surveillance? Is someone trying to rip me off? Did it even get sent in the first place?
I really only chip these days anyway, so I'm willing to be patient. I don't expect Amazon. I am glad to see IP did get some orders out, with extras too, just not quite to everyone it seems. Myself included.   
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 03, 2011, 12:31 am
Very good point sickboy .  Did LE get it?   Do i have to wory?  Not to mention did it get sent anyway .  Every other order I purchased here has been to me within 12 days.  This includes if its sent from fucking India.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mr.wizard on September 03, 2011, 12:59 am
IP - I don't know why people have to be so rude. When I find a vendor not responsive I think about waiting for resolution and getting my money back. I don't like having my money tied up that long but that's just the nature of the business.

You came through, you included extras, and you've generally been pretty communicative. I appreciate it. I'm not expecting Amazon-style customer service here so you pretty well meet my expectations. I order and you deliver, albeit a bit slow for reasons that you acknowledge and are saying you're working to fix.

Why people have to flame so harshly is beyond me. You're building a core of people that appreciate your effort. I would like you to be in the 100% club though so keep trying to figure out what has happened to those you've missed.

Thanks dude. I guess I deserve it to some degree but now that I am more experienced, I don't take it too personal and get too emotional. In the beginning I got all worked up over the shit said in here, and for what? For nothing. Now what I do is refund the ones that get real angry with me. It's funny how most are real nice over PM, but show a completely different side on here. Human nature, I guess.

By the way, methman, sorry it didn't work out. Your order was from way back and I just checked and saw it never got fulfilled. I see your pretty upset and asked for your money back, so I just did it. You should have your dough back now.

All of my recent orders are getting notification from SR today that their order is now marked as shipped, locking funds in escrow.  Good news, you can rely on that information and expect your order in a few days.

I am re-posting my ad... read it. I am offering shipping within 48 hours or it's free. You can see that I don't mind shipping extras, so you can believe it I will give it out for free if I fail.

Electriccrazyman, I think you are the first person to mention the good things I have done to mitigate the stress with the delay I have caused. Thanks for backing me up.

'At least some people are getting responses to PMs.  I sent IP a pm and he has yet to respond.  Ordered on the 13th, was put "in transit" on the 25th.  Still no sign.'

IP-  I'm totally a patient guy.  Just not respecting the lack of communication.  I understand you are likely bombarded with PMs every day.  You've been on this forum and I've posted a couple of times on here as well about no product and no communication.  What gives?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on September 03, 2011, 01:16 am
Got a couple PMs back from IP saying that the order should be here on Tuesday.  He was very friendly and apologetic in the PMs, and it seems as though he's genuinely coming through.  Offered a partial refund as well.  Seems as though he's realizing that he needs to run a tighter ship, and I hope he's had enough wake-up calls in the form of feedback.  He's certainly going to have to step it up if he wants to raise that 85. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 01:21 am
methadoneman, i gave you a refund.

to the 4 people who have been waiting for their shit, it was sent should be getting it in 3 days

to the 40 people who have gotten their shit, please settle the transaction so i can get my BTC

from now on, i wont be here anymore(in the forum) i cant stand the assumptions. it's obvious im a legit seller who overlooked a few orders, again if you want to be refunded, just ask. actually there wont be any refunds because all orders have been honored

I though it would be helpful posting updates and shit on here but it's turning into madness. Why dont you talk about the people who are really scamming others, not the few week delay i have had with 5 people.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 01:32 am
WOOO!

that's some fervent shit right there. and again methadoneman - i feel you.

this is what happens when junkies attempt dealing on silk road.

you get your bupe before, even though you ordered your bag of H first.

that's because your H is in the junkie's arm while he's fulfilling HIS needs

without a care in the world about yours.

in all honesty, this is the type of stuff that will bring your whole gig down ItalianPilot.

stop getting high off your own supply. it's strongly evident now.

Prepare for Emergency Landing. You know you done fucked up now, and there's no turning back.

With a few more H vendors coming up, hopefully we will never have to deal with this again.

this has been a PAINFUL thread to follow.


L75

As if I got their money first. My habit i taken care of by other means. Some balls to knock me for my habit in a room full of users. Some balls.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 01:55 am
Your right Im mad.  I was nothing but polite and understanding and look at where it got me with this prick.  He basically said fuck you to me more than once. I will let his money sit HERE FOR A FUCKING MONTH WHIle the ASSHOLE that ordered it is sitting on his hands waiting  .  Is he really fucking serious with the excuses?  IP I will now go out of my way to tell any one who will listen about how you fucked me more than twice and lied to me more than 4 times and for what dude?  WHAT An ASSHOLE YOU ARE.  Are YOU 15 YEARS OLD DUDE?  DO you have trouble reading and writing as well as arithmetic.  We all know about your troubles with math and Bitcoin.  Excuse ARE FOR CHILDREN Not Sellers on this site.  Well no other sellers but YOU!!!!   HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT TO MAIL A FUCKING ENVELOPE?!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, one more thing.... methman, why don't you tell everyone the real reason your flipping out? Isn't it because I refunded you and you know your not getting shit? Didn't you ask for a refund? It seems like you got enraged after I refunded you. Most would have been happy. Or are you mad because I tied up your funds accidentally? Send me an address and I will send you double your money back for waiting. Every post I make on here I am trying to improve. are you mad because sales till pour in for me? you hating on me? anyone who starts selling on here and gets hit with as many orders that translate to as much money as I got within a few days would want to learn everything in and out before shipping, especially jumping the gun like I admit I did. I thought informing everyone the truth would help. But your mad and you left me feedback giving off the impression I robbed you. Why didn't you at least say in that feedback that I gave you your money back? Cause your a cock. Why don't you tell everyone how you promised to change the feedback and change your opinion of me here on the forum if I shipped your shit? Never mind I will, here's the PM:

From: methadoneman69
Date: September 2, 2011, 11:51 pm UTC
That would be cool. If you did I will go on the BB and tell everyone even after I had a opinion on him he was still man enough to send me my order. And I will change my review.
-------------------------------------------------------------
From: italianpilot
Date: September 2, 2011, 11:48 pm UTC
I am leaving in 30 minutes to ship more orders. Am I including yours?
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________



your feedback isn't real, your more emotional than my whore on the side. I will take it like a man and watch it drown in the sea of positives rather than ship your order after re-funding you.


Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 02:00 am

I answer almost all pm's i get. Like I put in my ad, " I will answer all ad's at night" Sometimes I get 85 new messages. If I read a message and don't respond to it right away, it gets marked as read and I accidentally missed it. I am doing the best I could. Anyone who I haven't notified that their shit was shipped, just ask for a refund and I will honor it promptly. It's funny how in all the messages I get, no one ever has an attitude and they are always polite and understanding. I have customers volunteering to release funds early, and have done so on their own. I would never ask someone to do that.

I don't care if my messages aren't being responded to "right away."  I get it - you can't be tied to the computer 24/7.  Where I have a major fucking problem is with your inability or utter unwillingness to answer ANY of my PMs, and I see that other people here are in the same boat.  Cut the bullshit excuses already, man up, and quit lying, FFS.

Seriously, man, I'm not asking you to move fucking mountains here.  I'm asking for my order to be fulfilled as originally agreed upon, and to get an occasional answer when I have a question about it.  Not asking for a refund at the moment, just want what I paid for. 

Don't cry victim either, like you were being straight up and hooked up all these orders, boo-hoo.  You had to hook up the orders because you dropped the ball and wanted to maintain some semblance of a reputation.  Very cool that ou did that.  However, I and others still haven't even gotten what we ORDERED, let alone any extras. 

So can I expect my order please with fucking sugar on top?

private message me i wont publicly post order information, like i said before. Stop trying to raise higher hell here by making everything public when I dont see 1 message from you asking for an update. Or i it because I sent YOU a message and you already know. I think you know already that I dont know who you are because your SR name is different. So many fake people on here it why its my last night here.

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 02:07 am
So  you ask why I had to say those things on the bulletin board in your last PM.  I answered you with a PM and I will answer you here as well.  I originally ordered from you 2 or 3 days after you joined the site.  I ordered quite a few at the time.  I waited about a month because you confirmed shipping and nothing came.  You apologized and said you would mail me a freebie for the trouble which you never did.  After you made this apology and returned my money I said well okay I will give him another chance and ordered a few again.  They stayed in processing for about a week and a half and I finally canceled MOST of them but left 1 to see if you'd deliver.  Its now been over a monthgoodl since I last ordered from you with no results and now  your pissed at me for being upset and  writing about it on the BB.   You promised me 2 freebies and have had my money tied up for over 18 days and not once have I said anything rude and your mad at me?  Why is it that all the other sellers on here have no problem getting stuff out?  No other seller even the number 1 guys ever complain about the amount of messages of items they have to mail out ?  Your excuses are nothing but that.  Excuses are for children or people who fuck up.  You seem to inflicting all this upon yourself but are getting mad at the people who put faith in you to provide a product in a timely manor.  I don't think 2 months is timely do you?  I see you canceled my order that was already out for shipping just now.  Does that mean you didnt send it in the first place?

2 months ago? i joined the site 2 month ago but never sold until later. good luck meth man, have a good night. sorry it didn't work out. dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

damn, how do you handle someone like that? dude's been waiting, i thought i shipped his package. no other reason i would ship others and not his. my bad
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 02:11 am
IP - I don't know why people have to be so rude. When I find a vendor not responsive I think about waiting for resolution and getting my money back. I don't like having my money tied up that long but that's just the nature of the business.

You came through, you included extras, and you've generally been pretty communicative. I appreciate it. I'm not expecting Amazon-style customer service here so you pretty well meet my expectations. I order and you deliver, albeit a bit slow for reasons that you acknowledge and are saying you're working to fix.

Why people have to flame so harshly is beyond me. You're building a core of people that appreciate your effort. I would like you to be in the 100% club though so keep trying to figure out what has happened to those you've missed.

Thanks dude. I guess I deserve it to some degree but now that I am more experienced, I don't take it too personal and get too emotional. In the beginning I got all worked up over the shit said in here, and for what? For nothing. Now what I do is refund the ones that get real angry with me. It's funny how most are real nice over PM, but show a completely different side on here. Human nature, I guess.

By the way, methman, sorry it didn't work out. Your order was from way back and I just checked and saw it never got fulfilled. I see your pretty upset and asked for your money back, so I just did it. You should have your dough back now.

All of my recent orders are getting notification from SR today that their order is now marked as shipped, locking funds in escrow.  Good news, you can rely on that information and expect your order in a few days.

I am re-posting my ad... read it. I am offering shipping within 48 hours or it's free. You can see that I don't mind shipping extras, so you can believe it I will give it out for free if I fail.

Electriccrazyman, I think you are the first person to mention the good things I have done to mitigate the stress with the delay I have caused. Thanks for backing me up.

'At least some people are getting responses to PMs.  I sent IP a pm and he has yet to respond.  Ordered on the 13th, was put "in transit" on the 25th.  Still no sign.'

IP-  I'm totally a patient guy.  Just not respecting the lack of communication.  I understand you are likely bombarded with PMs every day.  You've been on this forum and I've posted a couple of times on here as well about no product and no communication.  What gives?

wizard,i overlooked your pm, dont slip down into the dirty depth a these nuts. i have you. i will pm you details of your order.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 02:15 am
Getting tied up in this mess is taking me away from messaging back my pm's. only 33 to go. if i dont respond tonight, I will  respond tomorrow. it's saturday so i can focus on making things right with fresh orders. alot to keep up. everyone will get their orders, even faster this round.. like i requested, please show how long it took to receive your orders. this way i can show improvement.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 03, 2011, 02:30 am
Getting tied up in this mess is taking me away from messaging back my pm's. only 33 to go. if i dont respond tonight, I will  respond tomorrow. it's saturday so i can focus on making things right with fresh orders. alot to keep up. everyone will get their orders, even faster this round.. like i requested, please show how long it took to receive your orders. this way i can show improvement.

italianpilot(85)   4 of 5   Slow shipping still no H. Did give an extra bupe. Would have much prefered the H I purchased over 2 weeks ago than an extra sub.

that number next to your name, is starting to get lower.

every day.

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 03, 2011, 02:51 am
Did i say you stole my money you prick?  No .  Im glad you posted what you did because people will see you said to me you will send it to me again for free even though you gave me my money back.  Thats not the problem you THICKHEADED PRICK.  I WAITED 2 FUCKING MONTHS.  NOT 2 WEEKS YOU DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had several orders placed with you that you FAILED TO DELIVER NOT 1. 3 YOU STUPID PRICK.  and why not post THE WHOLE FUCKING CONVERSATION DUSHBAG. Because you dont want US TO READ IT YOU PRICK!!!!  LEAVE this wonderful place your STINKING IT upwith your lies, EXCUSES AND STINK.  Looks like there are alot more people out there like me.  WAY MORE than  5 YOU DELUSIONAL PRICK.  I HOPE YOU LEAVE AND FUCKING OVERDOSE ON YOUR STUPID SHIT YOU LYING PIG FART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 03, 2011, 02:59 am
WOW. One of my customers explained this behavior perfectly. I was actually thinking of pulling the plug. I don't need this stress. Like my customer said, it's because there is no legit seller of H is why there are such high expectations, and high demand.

Well, I guess I didn't live up to some of your expectations. I started another thread because this one makes me sick. All are welcome, just please keep it civil. I will not post in here anymore. I would love it for some of my happy customers to start posting in the thread I made. If not, thats fine. I will never pot here again. IP signing off. Over, and, OUT!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: MerryGoByeBye on September 03, 2011, 03:14 am
Quote
private message me i wont publicly post order information, like i said before. Stop trying to raise higher hell here by making everything public when I dont see 1 message from you asking for an update. Or i it because I sent YOU a message and you already know. I think you know already that I dont know who you are because your SR name is different. So many fake people on here it why its my last night here.

That was my mistake, IP.  You had sent me PMs on SR and I posted that before realizing they were there.  I'm not a fake poster - I PM'd you on the forum the other day with my SR name.  Either way, looks like it's settled (I hope, anyway) and wish you the best of luck.  Sorry for being a dick.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 03, 2011, 03:21 am
methadoneman, i gave you a refund.

to the 4 people who have been waiting for their shit, it was sent should be getting it in 3 days

to the 40 people who have gotten their shit, please settle the transaction so i can get my BTC

from now on, i wont be here anymore(in the forum) i cant stand the assumptions. it's obvious im a legit seller who overlooked a few orders, again if you want to be refunded, just ask. actually there wont be any refunds because all orders have been honored

I though it would be helpful posting updates and shit on here but it's turning into madness. Why dont you talk about the people who are really scamming others, not the few week delay i have had with 5 people.



To the $) PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECEIVED THEIR SHIT settle the TRANSaction!  YOU STUPID PRICK....they havent finalized because they DIDNT GET THEIR SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 04, 2011, 07:18 am
Everything here can be solved with a valid tracking number system, without the signing part.

Chill, I am sure it can work out?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 05, 2011, 01:41 am
Everything here can be solved with a valid tracking number system, without the signing part.

Chill, I am sure it can work out?


no, it can't be solved with a tracking number system.

what would solve this problem is if IP wasn't such a douchebag from the get-go. junkies should not sell H.

not as easy as "chill, i am sure it can work out". people got fucked in the ass and are pissed.

methadone man is one of them, and he's got a valid point all the way through.

IP just left the forums because he cant stand the heat. He'll be gone from SR soon.

I was one of the first bag-buyers, stood behind him, and now I have been fully convinced that was a

mistake. I cancelled and pulled my dick out of this rotting twat of a topic weeks ago

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: methadoneman on September 05, 2011, 08:53 pm
Looks like  Italian Dickhead gets another 1 out of 5.  I really hope your right about him leaving soon L75 .  I just went on his other posting and made sure everyone there knows as well.   How many people has he screwed over now?  He will say 5 .  I would say Die you stupid fuckhead.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on September 06, 2011, 04:11 am
I cancelled and pulled my dick out of this rotting twat of a topic weeks ago

L75


Obviously you haven't so just drop it.
Don't post in this topic again...simple.
You've more than stated your opinion.
Let it rest.

:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: btcfreedom on September 06, 2011, 11:35 am
I cancelled and pulled my dick out of this rotting twat of a topic weeks ago

L75


Obviously you haven't so just drop it.
Don't post in this topic again...simple.
You've more than stated your opinion.
Let it rest.

:D
nomad bloodbath

done.

apologies everyone

L75
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 10, 2011, 11:07 pm
IP may have been slow to get some of his first orders out, and may have made a few mistakes with some other orders, mine included. However, you will not find better H on SR. I've tried. His dope is the shit and as long as he stays around he is the only one I would mess with.
I'm not on IP's payroll or getting any discount I just want to update this thread with CURRENT and ACCURATE information on this vendor. He is not a scammer and has greatly improved his delivery time.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 11, 2011, 12:50 pm
Hey sickboy,

He is delivering the shit this Wed, is it accurate and can it be trusted? So far I am waiting for his reply but made order before Wed.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 11, 2011, 08:32 pm
Hey sickboy,

He is delivering the shit this Wed, is it accurate and can it be trusted? So far I am waiting for his reply but made order before Wed.

Just ask him for a tracking number. I'll be making another order by wednesday myself. 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 13, 2011, 12:20 am
He hasn't reply me for close to 2 days. My order still processing.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 13, 2011, 01:41 am
IP may have been slow to get some of his first orders out, and may have made a few mistakes with some other orders, mine included. However, you will not find better H on SR. I've tried. His dope is the shit and as long as he stays around he is the only one I would mess with.
I'm not on IP's payroll or getting any discount I just want to update this thread with CURRENT and ACCURATE information on this vendor. He is not a scammer and has greatly improved his delivery time.
sickboy - i second your opinion. the dope is the shit. while the bags haven't been even the majority of them have kicked my ass.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: otto325 on September 13, 2011, 03:28 am
Still no confirmed transit for me since I ordered on the 8th...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: andrea on September 13, 2011, 04:25 am
The 8th? Shiiiit, I ordered 17 days ago and still haven't got fuck all. He has asked me for my address 3 separate times too. Excuse after excuse. He's not worth the trouble. I knew what I was getting into when I tried him out though so I have nobody to fault but myself.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: oinkfat on September 14, 2011, 02:09 am
its been 27 days and still no H
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 14, 2011, 01:18 pm
If I am not wrong he only reply and sell to those regular customers. He has not even reply me, it's already Wed, looks like gonna cancel order.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 14, 2011, 10:00 pm
He missed out the shipping methods for 30 over customers, so not shipping today.

How much would you trust a seller who:

1. doesn't reply to your PM for 3 days

2. doesn't ship on anticipated day

3. delay your shipping on the last day

4. doesn't tell you next shipping day

Sad.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: E=daveC² on September 15, 2011, 05:16 pm
Now I'm upset too. He said he was going to ship on Sep 14, but the order still says processing. He took down his listings too. If I don't hear anything by Saturday, I'll cancel the order.

Edit: I just checked the order and now it says in transit. Hopefully it'll get here by Saturday.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: BillHampton on September 15, 2011, 08:42 pm
Placed a 5 bag order on the 3rd of this month.

He sent me an email to leave good feedback if it is a positive experience.  I told him about being very vocal on the forums if my experience is positive or negative.  He seemed pleased with this.

Been roughly two weeks since my package was "in transit".  Roughly 10 business days.  The other things I ordered on that same day have all arrived a week ago.

I truly hate when people lie about ship dates, puts you in a situation where you get paranoid of the possibility of seizure.  Best for the dealer just to be honest and leave the order "processing" until it truly ships...  it would alleviate countless PMs and customer frustrations.

I have not given up on him.  I still think I *may* get it.  If it comes soon I'll leave 5 of 5....  as of 18 days I'm resolving for my money back though.  I will not be scammed.


It makes me worried that outside of the "leave good feedback if service is good" letter, he has not responded to my two letters inquiring as to when the product shipped and when I'm likely to receive it....


Keep me happy, Italianpilot, it's a big order and worth the positive feedback that your sorely lacking.  I'm one of the guys here still on the fence too, a good experience is liable to receive return orders.... 

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 16, 2011, 11:00 pm
Its quite sad, though he has new description now, thanks to his friend, says 'back with vengence' and 'lightning fast services', he only managed to send 1 reply of apology. Then he proceeded to say he would ship yesterday. But so far no other reply of clarification.

It seems he is selective to regular customers only, and I dont really see any improvement at all.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 17, 2011, 12:29 am
Now he replied, says he did not ship anything. Sad, I do not want to compare, but JB is much better vendor.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: BillHampton on September 19, 2011, 05:22 pm
I got my product.  Ordered on the 3rd and received today, the 19th.

He sent me a message after I placed my order to specifically mention how long it took and how the service was....  still needs some work.  Wrote "in transit" when it wasn't.  Shipped just a few days ago.  I'm convinced this guy only ships out a couple times a month if I had to guess.

As far as the product goes....  somewhat disappointing.  I find it interesting that so many people are mentioning the stuff being top shelf.  For powder H, this is the weakest I've ever had.  I've snorted up 2 stamp bags in the last 3 hrs....   I honestly feel like I could go to work and function.  I got a lot higher from 3 lortab 10s I took last night....  and if lortab is stronger than 2 stamp bags, something is fucked....

Makes me wonder if he's beginning to cut his product to fulfill quotas.

I don't know for sure.... but this guy does business like a junky...  not punctual at all.  Seems that many orders don't even get delivered (the fact that mine was 5 bags prob made him prioritize me over smaller orders).  I honestly suspect my bag was highly cut.....

Next time I believe I'll use a different vendor.  Heroin seems to be the one thing that's still hard to obtain on silk road. 

IRL I try to never buy from junky dealers.  They tend to prioritize making a quick buck and ripping people off over return customers, which actually fucks them in the long term, but a junky is only thinking of their next fix....  not maximizing profits and keeping customers.

Leaves a lot to be desired....

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on September 19, 2011, 06:46 pm
Page 21....same ole same.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 20, 2011, 04:28 am
I got my product.  Ordered on the 3rd and received today, the 19th.

He sent me a message after I placed my order to specifically mention how long it took and how the service was....  still needs some work.  Wrote "in transit" when it wasn't.  Shipped just a few days ago.  I'm convinced this guy only ships out a couple times a month if I had to guess.

As far as the product goes....  somewhat disappointing.  I find it interesting that so many people are mentioning the stuff being top shelf.  For powder H, this is the weakest I've ever had.  I've snorted up 2 stamp bags in the last 3 hrs....   I honestly feel like I could go to work and function.  I got a lot higher from 3 lortab 10s I took last night....  and if lortab is stronger than 2 stamp bags, something is fucked....

Makes me wonder if he's beginning to cut his product to fulfill quotas.

I don't know for sure.... but this guy does business like a junky...  not punctual at all.  Seems that many orders don't even get delivered (the fact that mine was 5 bags prob made him prioritize me over smaller orders).  I honestly suspect my bag was highly cut.....

Next time I believe I'll use a different vendor.  Heroin seems to be the one thing that's still hard to obtain on silk road. 

IRL I try to never buy from junky dealers.  They tend to prioritize making a quick buck and ripping people off over return customers, which actually fucks them in the long term, but a junky is only thinking of their next fix....  not maximizing profits and keeping customers.

Leaves a lot to be desired....

I haven't been on here in a while and I would never post details of any transactions that I complete with my customers but I must defend myself on this one.

Bill Hampton,  I worked with you to make this transaction right. You certainly did not wait nearly as long as some other of my clients and you were very upset. I completely understand. I shipped yours out on Friday, and you received it today. You messaged me today telling me it was pretty decent. You also gave me a 5 out of 5 and I believed you commented that it was "great" if I am reading the correct one. Your comments on here don't nearly support that. I don't understand why you would say the quality sucks. You seem to be the only one to complain. I never touch the product and I sell it the way I get it. Being a user (which I constantly get knocked for on here) I would NEVER sell anything I wouldn't put in my own veins. That's a fact.

I actually came across some bullshit last week and I wouldn't ship it out. I communicated that to a few people. I even came across some white dope that gave a huge rush that I told you guys on here, but when I started feeling withdrawals after 5 hours, I knew it was bullshit. Again, I would never sell anything I wouldn't put in my own veins.

I also paid you back 25% of what you spent on that order as a way to help make it up to you, my beloved customer. That equates to a very, very good price. Do you agree? If you are going to be vocal and spill the details of our transaction in a public forum, why don't you be a straight shooter, be fair and tell the whole story? I don't mind admitting it when I screw up. I would appreciate the same respect.

I am making headway in showing reliability. I may be a junkie, but I am a fair person and would never screw anyone over. My only fault has been delays in shipping. Please don't make me come on here and read things that contradict what you are telling me to my face. That is the reason I haven't stepped foot on here in a while. Truly is disappointing.

Being that you are the only one to complain of quality I don't see your comments hurting my sales that are flowing nicely. Repeat customers as well. I just wanted to get the full story and defend myself. You made some suggestive comments putting me down regarding my habit and even worse claiming I am screwing over my clients. Where do you get your information from? I thought you were happy dude? At least you led me to believe that you were. I was happy thinking I left you a happy camper. Guess you really can't please everyone. Just be honest with me. If your upset FOR ANY REASON, I will try to make it right. Same as for everyone.

IP
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: E=daveC² on September 20, 2011, 05:22 am
I finally got mine. It took longer than I would have liked, but it did ship when IP said it shipped. Decent quality and quantity.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: BillHampton on September 20, 2011, 12:29 pm
In all fairness italianpilot did give me a 25% refund on my order for the slow ship times.  He is making an effort at doing good business.

To explain me giving 5 of 5 feedback and a lackluster post here.  I was really psyched about getting my 5 bags and I tried a couple of lines and left feedback almost immediately after that, probably too soon.  As an hour or two passed and I finished off the second bag I realized, for the amount I had done, I wasn't hardly high at all.  3 lortabs the night before did me better than 2 of the bags.

The powder heroin I'm around is far stronger.  I was actually unaware there was any floating around this weak.  Maybe he didn't cut it and received it in this condition.  I don't know.

I'm sorry this review isn't favorable.  But if you get your ship times sorted out, I'm sure you'd still have many customers whatever the quality...


I'm really not trying to be a jerk....  so I'm sorry if it's coming across that way.  Just promoting open discussion.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 20, 2011, 12:50 pm
In all fairness italianpilot did give me a 25% refund on my order for the slow ship times.  He is making an effort at doing good business.

To explain me giving 5 of 5 feedback and a lackluster post here.  I was really psyched about getting my 5 bags and I tried a couple of lines and left feedback almost immediately after that, probably too soon.  As an hour or two passed and I finished off the second bag I realized, for the amount I had done, I wasn't hardly high at all.  3 lortabs the night before did me better than 2 of the bags.

The powder heroin I'm around is far stronger.  I was actually unaware there was any floating around this weak.  Maybe he didn't cut it and received it in this condition.  I don't know.

I'm sorry this review isn't favorable.  But if you get your ship times sorted out, I'm sure you'd still have many customers whatever the quality...


I'm really not trying to be a jerk....  so I'm sorry if it's coming across that way.  Just promoting open discussion.

Open discussion I encourage. I don't mind being criticized either, but don't say that because I am an addict, I cut my product and don't care about my customers. I guess you might have more of a tolerance than you thought. Unless you are like I can be....sometimes I get trashed and I feel fine but am walking like a zombie. I would keep telling my girlfriend "I am fine!" "I am fine!" but I'm really not...by a long shot!

To be honest, the only thing that saved my ass IS the fact I am offering high quality product AND my bags ARE larger than other sellers.. I have many repeat customers and I cherish them.  The fact that my shipping times have improved drastically means that much more. I still have a few loose ends, still, but it's very, very, few. I may get slammed by those people but I will take care of them. I WILL send them extras and I WILL refund a nice percentage of their purchase if I haven't yet. I may be a junkie but I know how to do the right thing.

I am however, staying current and shipping all new orders immediately. Thank you all for your ultimate support. Even you Bill.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 20, 2011, 01:10 pm
I finally got mine. It took longer than I would have liked, but it did ship when IP said it shipped. Decent quality and quantity.

Thanks for making a positive, truthful comment davekozy!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 20, 2011, 01:12 pm
The powder heroin I'm around is far stronger.  I was actually unaware there was any floating around this weak.  Maybe he didn't cut it and received it in this condition.  I don't know.

If you are around some really strong stuff, I'll buy it from you. Why buy it from me?

I'm sorry this review isn't favorable.  But if you get your ship times sorted out, I'm sure you'd still have many customers whatever the quality...

You mentioned in an earlier post how I should be concerned with earning repeat customers and how I should follow good business practices. Something about me being a junkie again. The fact is that I wouldn't have many customers at all shipping out garbage. Certainly no repeat ones. I have plenty of both. I am sure it would be better to be a little delayed as in your case rather than to have someone put bullshit in their nose or up their arms. Out of respect to other users, I would NEVER touch the shit. Unlike the dealers I know who are only interested in profiting.

I'm really not trying to be a jerk....  so I'm sorry if it's coming across that way.  Just promoting open discussion.

No offense taken. Thank you for receiving my rebuttal in a proper way.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Leech on September 20, 2011, 02:32 pm
IP, if you compare detailed reviews with sellers like JB and TM, you'd see the difference in how they do biz. They'd never delay shipping nor keep customers waiting. You have lots to learn and improve.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 20, 2011, 07:06 pm
IP, if you compare detailed reviews with sellers like JB and TM, you'd see the difference in how they do biz. They'd never delay shipping nor keep customers waiting. You have lots to learn and improve.

True but as I read TM's feedback, all I see is a mix of people who finalized early and others who are touting quick shipping. That's awesome for him but I certainly have more positive product reviews. Anyways, competition sure does have a way to heat things up so I have lowered my prices for now. I can do that all day long. I raised them with SR's advice to help cut back on the amount of orders coming through. It will come down to quality, I think, as long as I keep up my shipping habits.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 20, 2011, 07:24 pm
IP, if you compare detailed reviews with sellers like JB and TM, you'd see the difference in how they do biz. They'd never delay shipping nor keep customers waiting. You have lots to learn and improve.

True but as I read TM's feedback, all I see is a mix of people who finalized early and others who are touting quick shipping. That's awesome for him but I certainly have more positive product reviews. Anyways, competition sure does have a way to heat things up so I have lowered my prices for now. I can do that all day long. I raised them with SR's advice to help cut back on the amount of orders coming through. It will come down to quality, I think, as long as I keep up my shipping habits.

Yeah.... for me at least, quality is everything. As long as it ships when you say it does we are uber cool. I suspect IP's bags are a little on the heavy side of 0.2G or 200MG's. I have just procured some MG scales and will post results once I recieve the order I just placed. Although I know East Coast bags are filled with measuring spoons, we will see. I bet they are mostly 200-250MG's. Not a bad price at all for mail box delivery. Especially if it keeps you off those greasey streets.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 20, 2011, 07:54 pm
IP, if you compare detailed reviews with sellers like JB and TM, you'd see the difference in how they do biz. They'd never delay shipping nor keep customers waiting. You have lots to learn and improve.

True but as I read TM's feedback, all I see is a mix of people who finalized early and others who are touting quick shipping. That's awesome for him but I certainly have more positive product reviews. Anyways, competition sure does have a way to heat things up so I have lowered my prices for now. I can do that all day long. I raised them with SR's advice to help cut back on the amount of orders coming through. It will come down to quality, I think, as long as I keep up my shipping habits.

Yeah.... for me at least, quality is everything. As long as it ships when you say it does we are uber cool. I suspect IP's bags are a little on the heavy side of 0.2G or 200MG's. I have just procured some MG scales and will post results once I recieve the order I just placed. Although I know East Coast bags are filled with measuring spoons, we will see. I bet they are mostly 200-250MG's. Not a bad price at all for mail box delivery. Especially if it keeps you off those greasey streets.

Sickboy, how did you like the quality of my stuff. By the way, I am constantly searching for the best quality from all my vendors. I have a lot. Really I do it so I can have the best but now with SR an official venture of mine, for you guys too! I know Newark, NJ has some mean shit.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 20, 2011, 08:09 pm
IP, if you compare detailed reviews with sellers like JB and TM, you'd see the difference in how they do biz. They'd never delay shipping nor keep customers waiting. You have lots to learn and improve.

True but as I read TM's feedback, all I see is a mix of people who finalized early and others who are touting quick shipping. That's awesome for him but I certainly have more positive product reviews. Anyways, competition sure does have a way to heat things up so I have lowered my prices for now. I can do that all day long. I raised them with SR's advice to help cut back on the amount of orders coming through. It will come down to quality, I think, as long as I keep up my shipping habits.

I had the "SLEEP WALKER" stamps. I thought they were really good. Although (for some stupid reason) I didn't filter one and ended up kinda sick (my fault, I know).
I've heard of Newark's quality but the closest I've come is Patterson, and I only saw skimpy dime bags.
Bottom line is: get the skag in the mail ASAP and you will have customers for life.

Sickboy, how did you like the quality of my stuff. By the way, I am constantly searching for the best quality from all my vendors. I have a lot. Really I do it so I can have the best but now with SR an official venture of mine, for you guys too! I know Newark, NJ has some mean shit.

I had the "SLEEP WALKER" stamps. I thought they were really good. Although (for some stupid reason) I didn't filter one and ended up kinda sick (my fault, I know).
I've heard of Newark's quality but the closest I've come is Patterson, and I only saw skimpy dime bags.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 20, 2011, 09:13 pm
Sickboy, thank you for being a repeat customer.  Your criticism is constructive and that's cool as well.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 20, 2011, 11:08 pm
I'm going to jump in here and offer my opinion on the quality of IP's and others' product.

IP - the bags I've received are about 40-45mg. Doing a full bag is a serious buzz. Set aside some time.
TM - the bags have been about .20mg. Quality buzz but two bags yield less buzz than one of IPs.
JB - the bags have been less than .20mg. Clean dope, but two bags give less buzz than one of IPs.

TM and JB are phenomenally impressive in the shipping, communications, and customer service areas. IP is pretty good but not as consistent.

Everyone should make their own decisions about which way to go based on what's important to them. There are good things about all three vendors, and I like them all.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ketaaa on September 21, 2011, 08:40 am
I ordered 1 bags Yesterday , still no news from IP .. If you are here IP , please confirm and ship my order ;)

 i will give you a feedback about quality (i have high tolerance) and about shipping after receiving the product..
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: leethax on September 21, 2011, 01:39 pm
Not doing business with junkies is a pretty good rule of thumb. Also one of the ten crack commandments is never get high on your own supply, which is what this guy is doing.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ketaaa on September 21, 2011, 04:51 pm
Still no news about IP...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 21, 2011, 04:52 pm
I'm going to jump in here and offer my opinion on the quality of IP's and others' product.

IP - the bags I've received are about 40-45mg. Doing a full bag is a serious buzz. Set aside some time.
TM - the bags have been about .20mg. Quality buzz but two bags yield less buzz than one of IPs.
JB - the bags have been less than .20mg. Clean dope, but two bags give less buzz than one of IPs.

TM and JB are phenomenally impressive in the shipping, communications, and customer service areas. IP is pretty good but not as consistent.


Everyone should make their own decisions about which way to go based on what's important to them. There are good things about all three vendors, and I like them all.

Oh. I was way off then. I'm really only experienced in the tar market. I was estimating half that. I just figured a dime was .1 and a 20 was .2.
Still though, I thought what I had got from IP were some fat sacks.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: mseller on September 21, 2011, 04:59 pm
I think that electriccrazyman meant to say;
IP bags are around 400-450mg (or 0,4-0,45 gram)
TM and JB have around 200mg (0,2 gram)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 21, 2011, 05:03 pm
Still no news about IP...

IP's communication isn't really all that bad, with most people at least. I guess he just doesn't get around to shipping everyday of the week. I made an order the other day and it still is in "processing". When I spoke to him last he said he would be shipping today. As long as he doesn't mark anything as "in transit" before it actually ships, I think that's OK. That's what he did last time to cause all the flames.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 21, 2011, 10:37 pm
I think that electriccrazyman meant to say;
IP bags are around 400-450mg (or 0,4-0,45 gram)
TM and JB have around 200mg (0,2 gram)
mseller. I wish! The bags are small glassine envelopes stamped with some design or words and hold about what I weighed. These are generally intended as individual shots and sell for (on SR) anywhere from $20-30 apiece. They all have been cut - I can taste the sweet sugar residue; some more than others.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: thebesh on September 22, 2011, 11:13 pm
I've placed an order so will update and let you know how it goes
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on September 23, 2011, 05:42 am
i have also placed 2 orders.  both shipped when IP said they would, and msg replies only happen once/twice a day but so far all questions have been answered by IP.  lets see how it finishes off
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: E=daveC² on September 23, 2011, 06:28 am
Now I've tried JB's and TM's stuff too. I bought the minimum from each to test. The weights just estimating were 200mg from IP, 100mg from TM, and 50mg from JB. Since the bags vary, if you buy more the light ones and heavy ones should average out.

The best quality was TM's. JB's was second and IP was third. The quantity was so much better for IP's that I still got more bang for my buck from his. The only worry was the cotton turned black when I cooked it from the cut.

JB's was light. I had to boot the whole thing to get relaxed. I was good from half a bag of TM's and IP's. I have almost no tolerance.









 
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on September 23, 2011, 03:16 pm
i got some fro, jb.  being from the left coast never had powder before, but there was barely anything in the bag! to my surprise, one bag could be felt, two were okay.  not fire but ok

just waiting on IP's shipment now
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 24, 2011, 04:50 am
i got some fro, jb.  being from the left coast never had powder before, but there was barely anything in the bag! to my surprise, one bag could be felt, two were okay.  not fire but ok

just waiting on IP's shipment now

I'm a West Coaster as well. JB's were dime bags, and although quite strong, pretty inconsistant on size. IP's are dubs, and even quite large I would say, from my limited experience with powder D.
Mexican Black like we get out West destroys yer veins from the high acidity. Who knows what else it's doing inside yer body. Paying money to those Murdering Mexican cartel bastards is also a cause of concern for me. I think it's worth it to wait and get some real D.
I mean, if yer gonna do it.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Mark666 on September 24, 2011, 11:29 am
Ordered form IP the 19th and received today. It's my first SR experience so I'm quite happy. 5 days is quicker than I expected, as I'm Europe. Packing was okay but nothing spectacular, pile of 6 tiny bags marked "sleepwalker' in one vacuum seal.

The most important part, quantity and quality; around 0,05 gram per bag. I snorted a bag and smoked 2 on foil. I"ll post my experience on the effects in few hours...
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: midnightstar on September 24, 2011, 02:57 pm
I ordered from him on wed, the 14th and he said he shipped on the 16th and marked in transit, seemed really nice apologized for the late shipping and even said he put in a extra bag for the late shipping and since im a new customer.. i asked him a question about roughly how long it takes from his experiences with international orders and yesterday he replies to me and says he apologizes but his notes say he didn't ship mine out till tuesday, then i asked him why did he mark my order in transit then and he said sometimes he marks in transit the night before.. but that was a five day space!!! i really hope i still get my order:( thank god we have reliable vendors like pharmville or else i would be only relying on him and that would be very frusterating. if all goes well i will still give him a good review for coming through though:)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 24, 2011, 03:46 pm
I ordered from him on wed, the 14th and he said he shipped on the 16th and marked in transit, seemed really nice apologized for the late shipping and even said he put in a extra bag for the late shipping and since im a new customer.. i asked him a question about roughly how long it takes from his experiences with international orders and yesterday he replies to me and says he apologizes but his notes say he didn't ship mine out till tuesday, then i asked him why did he mark my order in transit then and he said sometimes he marks in transit the night before.. but that was a five day space!!! i really hope i still get my order:( thank god we have reliable vendors like pharmville or else i would be only relying on him and that would be very frusterating. if all goes well i will still give him a good review for coming through though:)

That's IP's one problem. You should never mark an order as "in transit" when it is really not. People get really concerned when it doesn't arrive on time. I would rather just have an order in processing than sitting around, sweating bullets, wondering if my delivery has been intercepted.
One thing though. In my experience with IP, just send him a polite PM explaining you are still waiting and he will sort it out, instead of flaming him on the forums first.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: midnightstar on September 25, 2011, 07:48 am
I totally agree. You shouldn't mark in transit until IN TRANSIT haha. Im in no rush to get it, i knew when i ordered from him in the first place it would take a while, from the reviews on the forums. I only placed a small order to test it out. Thought i'd just update my experience on the forums, so people know what they are getting themselves into ahead of time. He seems like a nice guy..nothing against him, just would like to actually have a successful H buy on here, i would consider it a miracle if i ever do get it, not because i dont trust him..just because of my past orders with H and how i got fucked over, i think thats why everyone, including me is so paranoid. Kind of feel bad for the guy in a way to deal with this sort of pressure. ;)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on September 25, 2011, 03:31 pm
i got some fro, jb.  being from the left coast never had powder before, but there was barely anything in the bag! to my surprise, one bag could be felt, two were okay.  not fire but ok

just waiting on IP's shipment now

I'm a West Coaster as well. JB's were dime bags, and although quite strong, pretty inconsistant on size. IP's are dubs, and even quite large I would say, from my limited experience with powder D.
Mexican Black like we get out West destroys yer veins from the high acidity. Who knows what else it's doing inside yer body. Paying money to those Murdering Mexican cartel bastards is also a cause of concern for me. I think it's worth it to wait and get some real D.
I mean, if yer gonna do it.

tis so true.  playin with tar in vegas, i was out of veins in a matter of months, luckily theyve come back now, just so i can abuse them again lol.  tbh, now in cali, i do miss tar on occasion :P
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: scharp on September 25, 2011, 05:16 pm
Just placed an order. Italianpilot answered plenty of my questions for about a week before today. Good customer service and the PGP tutorial on the listing was helpful.

Will post more when order is finalized.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 26, 2011, 01:52 am
I totally agree. You shouldn't mark in transit until IN TRANSIT haha. Im in no rush to get it, i knew when i ordered from him in the first place it would take a while, from the reviews on the forums. I only placed a small order to test it out. Thought i'd just update my experience on the forums, so people know what they are getting themselves into ahead of time. He seems like a nice guy..nothing against him, just would like to actually have a successful H buy on here, i would consider it a miracle if i ever do get it, not because i dont trust him..just because of my past orders with H and how i got fucked over, i think thats why everyone, including me is so paranoid. Kind of feel bad for the guy in a way to deal with this sort of pressure. ;)

Actually, you should have no problems with JB or TM. They are both very reliable and have a good product. IP has great product as well. Shipping can be slow at times though.

That's the game though. I'm actually surprised we now have some legit H vendors on SR. When I first joined it was just a bunch of crap.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: sickboy on September 26, 2011, 01:59 am
i got some fro, jb.  being from the left coast never had powder before, but there was barely anything in the bag! to my surprise, one bag could be felt, two were okay.  not fire but ok

just waiting on IP's shipment now

I'm a West Coaster as well. JB's were dime bags, and although quite strong, pretty inconsistant on size. IP's are dubs, and even quite large I would say, from my limited experience with powder D.
Mexican Black like we get out West destroys yer veins from the high acidity. Who knows what else it's doing inside yer body. Paying money to those Murdering Mexican cartel bastards is also a cause of concern for me. I think it's worth it to wait and get some real D.
I mean, if yer gonna do it.

tis so true.  playin with tar in vegas, i was out of veins in a matter of months, luckily theyve come back now, just so i can abuse them again lol.  tbh, now in cali, i do miss tar on occasion :P

Fuck, I know. Look at what the tar is doing to yer veins. What the hell is it doing to the rest of you?

I won't touch it anymore.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: bobbysnewshoes on September 26, 2011, 02:45 am
I can only give IP bad marks for one VERY IMPORTANT THING: he marked my package 'IN TRANSIT' wednesday, then when friday gets around and I don't see a package because I specifically asked for priority b/c my wife and kids were going to be gone, and I wanted to get high, he realized IT NEVER GOT MAILED. so he said he would send it overnight that night on him. Well overnight was too much so he didn't, now I get my package after everyone gets home. My package was in transit for 3 days BEFORE it was shipped. I would have cancelled and went with someone else, instead I had no choice. He said he was sorry, he'd send overnight, and DIDN'T.

I haven't tried the dope yet. So I can't comment on that. But the IN TRANSIT for 3 days without getting shipped is BULLSHIT. I hope that SR reads these boards, if not I intend to send him a message. I would have time to have made other plans instead of getting fucked. He doesn't seem to realize that 'sorry' and 'making up for it' doesn't cut it in the real world, and once or twice a week at least there is a story like that in his thread.

It could be the firest dope in the US straight of the brick and I won't order based on the above reasons. Sorry. I just want him to see what I'm talking about instead of blaming it on me cause I wanted priority instead of regular shipping. its not my fault he marked it fucking in transit 3 days before he realized he never sent in the first place. that's fucked up. I'd lose my job for that. Slowly he will too.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on September 26, 2011, 03:43 am
i got some fro, jb.  being from the left coast never had powder before, but there was barely anything in the bag! to my surprise, one bag could be felt, two were okay.  not fire but ok

just waiting on IP's shipment now

I'm a West Coaster as well. JB's were dime bags, and although quite strong, pretty inconsistant on size. IP's are dubs, and even quite large I would say, from my limited experience with powder D.
Mexican Black like we get out West destroys yer veins from the high acidity. Who knows what else it's doing inside yer body. Paying money to those Murdering Mexican cartel bastards is also a cause of concern for me. I think it's worth it to wait and get some real D.
I mean, if yer gonna do it.

tis so true.  playin with tar in vegas, i was out of veins in a matter of months, luckily theyve come back now, just so i can abuse them again lol.  tbh, now in cali, i do miss tar on occasion :P

Fuck, I know. Look at what the tar is doing to yer veins. What the hell is it doing to the rest of you?

I won't touch it anymore.

yea i was surprised how quickly tar killed them.  nothing else ive shot took my veins away soo quick (and ive shot alot)  so i want to stick with mainly powder  however every once in a while i do still miss the smell of it, the itch, and the rush from it.   its different than powder.  not sure if its better, but its different :p
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 26, 2011, 04:56 am
I can only give IP bad marks for one VERY IMPORTANT THING: he marked my package 'IN TRANSIT' wednesday, then when friday gets around and I don't see a package because I specifically asked for priority b/c my wife and kids were going to be gone, and I wanted to get high, he realized IT NEVER GOT MAILED. so he said he would send it overnight that night on him. Well overnight was too much so he didn't, now I get my package after everyone gets home. My package was in transit for 3 days BEFORE it was shipped. I would have cancelled and went with someone else, instead I had no choice. He said he was sorry, he'd send overnight, and DIDN'T.

I haven't tried the dope yet. So I can't comment on that. But the IN TRANSIT for 3 days without getting shipped is BULLSHIT. I hope that SR reads these boards, if not I intend to send him a message. I would have time to have made other plans instead of getting fucked. He doesn't seem to realize that 'sorry' and 'making up for it' doesn't cut it in the real world, and once or twice a week at least there is a story like that in his thread.

It could be the firest dope in the US straight of the brick and I won't order based on the above reasons. Sorry. I just want him to see what I'm talking about instead of blaming it on me cause I wanted priority instead of regular shipping. its not my fault he marked it fucking in transit 3 days before he realized he never sent in the first place. that's fucked up. I'd lose my job for that. Slowly he will too.

Another situation I would like to get out my side of the story. I was only led here because you threatened to slander my name on the boards.

You came to me with a special request which I happily took on. I agreed to ship 1 bag for you by priority shipping last Wednesday because you said you needed it on Friday to avoid your wife from getting it. Having my mind on processing all the other orders I had, I made a mistake and overlooked your special request. On Friday when you asked me what's up with your order, I realized the mistake, and told you I would ship it out right away. You threw it in my face that this was the reason I have people talking crap about me in this thread and said it would be great if I could get your order out right away.

I ended up shipping out double what you ordered priority and you are getting it tomorrow. It was the only order I screwed up this batch.

You severely flipped out on me in a rage and said you were gonna try and ruin my reputation. I even had another vendor message me regarding your order which was embarrassing. The whole reason you are pissed off is because you say you needed it on Friday so your wife wouldn't get it. I told you I was sorry for being 2 days late. I told you that I did indeed ship double what you ordered and I even offered to refund you 100% after the fact since you were so pissed off. Then you said you weren't going to slander my name and you would probably be able to get the shipment without your wife finding out after all.

To be honest, it is a possibility if I shipped it out on Wednesday as planned that you wouldn't even get it until Monday anyways as the post office told me it could take 4 days for priority delivery.

Look man, I was trying to do you a favor in the first place by even agreeing to pay almost 6 bucks to ship 1 bag and look where it got me with you. It would have been nice to come in here and see that you stuck to your word when you told me you weren't going to flame me in here but that wasn't the case. Your last line in your message above says how you would lose your job for that and how I will too. Why the hate dude? Our charts are through the roof and it seems to bother you and others. I am surprised.

Also... Why would you also talk to another vendor about our business. It was truly embarrassing for me to receive a message from themunchies (who I get along with) to mention the problem I had with you. That was unnecessary. I believe I have been fair to you and I will still refund you 100% like I promised.

I am sorry to be detailed about what happened but I had to speak for myself. We still aren't perfect but we have managed to become the vendor with the #2 Best Selling Product out of all the Opiates on SR within the last 2 weeks.

Doesn't that count for something as far as improvement?
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 26, 2011, 05:02 am
From now on, I will only mark items as shipped when they are actually shipped. The way I see it, since I am dealing with a lot of orders it can possibly throw off LE if I don't exactly ship the day I mark it as so. It was just an evasive, precautious  tactic. Many people are praising me for the shipping times regardless of that. I guess I got a little paranoid but since it is pissing off so many people I will adjust accordingly. I was just doing it to be a a bit safer and I hate the fact I have to mention it as I was hoping to keep it confidential. I have many other things that I do which are confidential to keep myself and my clients safe and would like to keep it that way.

Not 1 person has messaged me regarding the fact I was shipping a bit later than I indicated yet it is clearly an amplified topic here. If anyone has specific questions regarding their order, please message me directly about it.

By the way... I have noticed the atmosphere has changed in here for the most part and I really appreciate all of you sharing your positive experience with me. It seems to have seriously boosted sales and that's exactly what I need to stick around. Most people have commented really well regarding the quality of our product and I am glad. Please remember, I don't control the quality, I only try to purchase the best so if your not satisfied and receive something from me that is not up to par, it must be a fluke and I will happily replace or refund all legitimate requests.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: nomad bloodbath on September 26, 2011, 07:05 am
I've seen a lot of improvement here.
It's not perfect but drug deals seldom are.
This thread might get unstickied this week.

:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 26, 2011, 10:10 am
I've seen a lot of improvement here.
It's not perfect but drug deals seldom are.
This thread might get unstickied this week.

:D
nomad bloodbath

Thanks man! Believe it or not I think the sticky part was a great selling tool! Great publicity in the end. :-)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: BillHampton on September 26, 2011, 11:23 am
Pilot, it does sound as though you've improved your business greatly....  but I must say, nearly ALL of your remaining problems could be solved by being honest about shipping times.  Every vendor I've dealt with (and I've dealt with many), has delays from time to time.  But most are upfront about it and leave the order "processing" until it truly ships.  This is an illegal business so it's even MORE important to operate with honest integrity.  People see a shortcut like lying about shipping times and they begin to wonder what else will go wrong, if they've been scammed, or if it has been intercepted.

You really don't get any advantage from marking "in transit" the second you see the order and shipping a week later.  The few sales you gain from this practice is cost you your reputation, new customers that would have otherwise went through you, and your return customers.  Best leave "processing" until it really goes, granted you may lose an order or two when a guy decides you aren't worth the two week wait (on top of whatever amount of time acquiring his bitcoins took)....  but no one will have hard feelings and it won't hurt your rep....

just my 2 cents.  It just really gets my nerves when ppl lie about shipping times.  Nothing to be gained and usually that lack of integrity is reflected in the product and overall experience as well.  In your case, you made it right and the product was goodish, so I'm not mad.  Just offering, what seems to be, the last improvement you need to make before becoming one of the better vendors around here....
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: bobbysnewshoes on September 26, 2011, 11:31 am
if you only sent 2 bags when I ordered and PAID for 4 and you said you'd double I expect a refund this morning. I paid 85 bucks I better not be getting 2 bags. You said 4 then you said you'd double, that would be 8.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: ItalianPilot on September 26, 2011, 03:55 pm
if you only sent 2 bags when I ordered and PAID for 4 and you said you'd double I expect a refund this morning. I paid 85 bucks I better not be getting 2 bags. You said 4 then you said you'd double, that would be 8.

Looks like you have even more reason to be pissed. Because it's a custom order, it show's quantity as 1. I AM refunding you 100%, enjoy the 2 bags on the house.

Custom Order for bobbysnewshoes   1   bobbysnewshoes   14 days

Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 27, 2011, 02:01 am
Pilot, it does sound as though you've improved your business greatly....  but I must say, nearly ALL of your remaining problems could be solved by being honest about shipping times.  Every vendor I've dealt with (and I've dealt with many), has delays from time to time.  But most are upfront about it and leave the order "processing" until it truly ships.  This is an illegal business so it's even MORE important to operate with honest integrity.  People see a shortcut like lying about shipping times and they begin to wonder what else will go wrong, if they've been scammed, or if it has been intercepted.

You really don't get any advantage from marking "in transit" the second you see the order and shipping a week later.  The few sales you gain from this practice is cost you your reputation, new customers that would have otherwise went through you, and your return customers.  Best leave "processing" until it really goes, granted you may lose an order or two when a guy decides you aren't worth the two week wait (on top of whatever amount of time acquiring his bitcoins took)....  but no one will have hard feelings and it won't hurt your rep....

just my 2 cents.  It just really gets my nerves when ppl lie about shipping times.  Nothing to be gained and usually that lack of integrity is reflected in the product and overall experience as well.  In your case, you made it right and the product was goodish, so I'm not mad.  Just offering, what seems to be, the last improvement you need to make before becoming one of the better vendors around here....
I want to say that I like IPs randomizing his shipping times. His thoughts about being a little less predictable for LE is good, IMHO. He's privately messaged using PHP when he actually ships and I have no issue with that. I'm not sure why anyone else would either, but to each their own. IP has also shipped in a manner I requested (and he remembered from a PM discussion a long-enough time ago that it would have been easy to have forgotten). This stuff takes time in the physical world. I waste less time with IP (or TM or JB) that I do face-to-face. I think of the Velvet Underground's "Waiting for the Man" and I don't get so bent out of shape. I am just happy to have three vendors that deliver quality product in varying degrees of timeliness.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: bobbysnewshoes on September 27, 2011, 01:49 pm
The only person that sees when the ship button is pushed is the customer and him. The 'IN TRANSIT' is only seen by the buyer and seller, so that is super irrelevant. I really have nothing against dude, he totally fucked my order up, but he paid me back mostly so its all good in my book. I was bummed since my tolerance is more than two bags- the best bags I got were 'THE HEAT'...that shit was fire as fuck.

I'd be willing to try working with IP again to see if he can get it right. I'm always down to give people a second chance. I am used to dealing with people that if you don't have your shit straight you're out. No second chances. Doesn't matter if its a dope deal or not. But he has been courteous, so its all good.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 27, 2011, 05:09 pm
The only person that sees when the ship button is pushed is the customer and him. The 'IN TRANSIT' is only seen by the buyer and seller, so that is super irrelevant. I really have nothing against dude, he totally fucked my order up, but he paid me back mostly so its all good in my book. I was bummed since my tolerance is more than two bags- the best bags I got were 'THE HEAT'...that shit was fire as fuck.

I'd be willing to try working with IP again to see if he can get it right. I'm always down to give people a second chance. I am used to dealing with people that if you don't have your shit straight you're out. No second chances. Doesn't matter if its a dope deal or not. But he has been courteous, so its all good.
Yes, but if I were looking at it from IP's perspective I would imagine that at least some of my buyers are LE. So that would imply that they know when he's shipping and will work to develop a profile. If I were in his position I would want to make that as hard as possible. Anyway, as you note I have found IP very reliable (though a bit unpredictable timing-wise) and very honorable, often either sending extra or refunding. I see no scam here though I can see that not everyone likes the way in which he does business. But that's the worst that can be said - what you're looking for and what he's offering don't align. I happily trade time and predictability for quality but I don't have a habit and this is recreational for me.

I didn't have THE HEAT. I ended up with LOCK DOWN instead and IP's is the best dope I've seen here. Maybe if I'd seen THE HEAT I'd have a different POV. But I didn't and judge based only on what I've seen. IP has consistently delivered product that is superior.
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: midnightstar on September 27, 2011, 10:09 pm
im still waiting for mine its been 15 days since i first ordered..however i trust its on its way..he doesnt seem like the kind of person to scam people. However if i dont get it by the end of the week im going to try to extend the escrow period because i will not release my coins to him till i have a product
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on September 28, 2011, 04:32 am
Came home to a nice surprise (well not really, IP told me it'd be here today, which it was).  the bags had at LEAST 3x the amount as JB's bags, and it seems to be better quality stuff.  shipping was spot on, product is spot on, IP is back in the game and has a new regular, far as I'm concerned.   Thanks IP!
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on September 29, 2011, 04:16 am
a second order has been placed with ItalianPilot.  hope all goes as well as before :D
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: chicken patty on September 29, 2011, 05:35 am
I was reluctant to place an order with IP at first but i took the plunge due to his improved feedback score.  I havent heard anything and i see that he now has no listings up.  Im going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt though because he seems like a pretty legit seller and the people that have delt with him say that he is a good guy.  *crosses fingers*

 :D
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on October 02, 2011, 03:28 am
2nd successful order from ItalianPilot arrived early (was supposed to be mon-definitely not complaining)

fat bags as usual, IP is very helpful ad keeps good communication

will be ordering much more, much more often.  no complaints whatsoever.  IP is 110% legit.  if anyone had/has any doubts, there's definitely no reason for it.  he is on the ball

quality is pretty good/high ive been an opi addict for 7 years, and i got SICK off of 2-1/2 bags :D above average/high quality and EXCELLENT/quantity worth every BTC ;D
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: td05h on October 02, 2011, 10:29 am
I was reluctant to place an order with IP at first but i took the plunge due to his improved feedback score.  I havent heard anything and i see that he now has no listings up.  Im going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt though because he seems like a pretty legit seller and the people that have delt with him say that he is a good guy.  *crosses fingers*

 :D

have you received yet? i would not worry one bit.  he rotate shipping times/places to keep things safe.  it'll show up  the 2 orders done from him so far, both were postmarked the day after he said they shipped (which is correct) but one took 5 days(incl. weekend) and the other took 2 days. all of the shipping companies ive dealt with are like that. go figure
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: chicken patty on October 03, 2011, 02:15 am
not yet but he PM'ed me yesterday, he is pretty easy to deal with and everything looks to be on track.  I'll update when the eagle has landed.....


 :)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: phubaiblues on October 06, 2011, 06:02 am
I got back on SR today, and this thread fascinated me, as when I left I think we were still fighting over Illy, who came thru twice for me, but bailed on others.  So I took about an hr to read this whole thread--Tor can be slowwww, and laughed when I saw Illy's name came up several times.  The first half of this thread was almost identical to hers.  E"xcept for some, she never did come thru...

Weird how we get all mad at each other too, when dope don't arrive on time.  Anyway, I ordered.  From where I sit, it looks a lot better than it did a couple of months ago.  I agree that your odds are a lot better with pills, usually, but I had more people not deliver on pills, than on H: it always came thru for me.

Nice to see we've got a little variety tho...I'll post when mine shows...take on TM next :)
Title: Re: italianpilot - new H seller
Post by: Deusvox on October 08, 2011, 06:54 am
I got italianpilot's "Sleep Walker" stamp and that shit was some pretty amazing stuff! considering what's around this is like the most godly powder i've ever seen! I can't wait to place the second, third, and fourth shipments!  He is as legit as they come!

I will update you all on all future stamps! :D